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 Jan 7 2011, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Jan 7 2011, 03:34 AM)  Phil Anselmo's opinion is spot on. Pretty funny to see him giving his drunken opinion on boxing. who is this guy?... this shit is classic... lol... |
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Jan 7 2011, 08:10 AM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
whats funny is that wlad seems all but signed to face adamek in september... if they really wanted the haye fight seems that fight wouldnt even be of consideration till it was apparent the fight was dead in the water...
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Jan 7 2011, 08:16 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
Why didn't Haye just take the fight on 7/2?
That's what I don't understand here. Haye was willing to take the fight on 7/2 if, but only if Wlad didn't take the Chisora fight on 4/30? Why would it matter to him whether Klitschko took care of the Chisora fight first and then met his obligations for the agreed upon date? |
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Jan 7 2011, 08:17 AM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
QUOTE (jkfitpro @ Jan 6 2011, 06:42 PM) Totally agree. I don't often post on here but the bitching about Haye is getting way out of proportion. Just saw this vid by Dwyer which more or less sums up my perspective in this debacle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGTuF-8n3c&feature=sub dwyer is always on the money... he's calling what i said some time ago about the klits... they know who matches up better with who... lol... dwyer is on the money... if you havent listened to his perspective its a good listen... |
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Jan 7 2011, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE (Warlord @ Jan 7 2011, 03:53 AM) Wlad gave Haye a date. Haye didn't want it. It's not that hard to understand. Bitches don't grow balls. That is a scientific, genetic fact. Wlad has never ducked anyone in his career, and his comp record proves it. The same cannot be said of David Haye. He has a history of bitching out, so David Haye gets all the blame here. Yes, Wlad gave Haye a date tha was about 8 weeks after his "mandatory" challenge. Do you really think that was a realistic time frame for Wlad to fight? What happens if Wlad sustained an injury? Haye wanted to fight in May and agreed to all of Wlad's demands. I'm not sure how anyone can pin this on Haye. Who fuck wants to see a mandatory? Now this Adamek fight comes out of nowhere? That shit didn't happen overnight! So was Wlad planning on fighting his mandatory, Haye and Adamek within a 5 month span? If so, He's the man but I doubt it. |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:06 AM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,778 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Beaumont, Texas Member No.: 4,447 |
QUOTE (D-MARV @ Jan 7 2011, 07:54 AM) Yes, Wlad gave Haye a date tha was about 8 weeks after his "mandatory" challenge. Do you really think that was a realistic time frame for Wlad to fight? What happens if Wlad sustained an injury? Haye wanted to fight in May and agreed to all of Wlad's demands. I'm not sure how anyone can pin this on Haye. Who fuck wants to see a mandatory? Now this Adamek fight comes out of nowhere? That shit didn't happen overnight! So was Wlad planning on fighting his mandatory, Haye and Adamek within a 5 month span? If so, He's the man but I doubt it. cuzz you know that wasnt the case marv... lol... wlad didnt want that fight... style wise its not the best fight for him... they prefer vitali take that assignment... |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (JLUVBABY @ Jan 8 2011, 12:04 AM) who is this guy?... this shit is classic... lol... The lead singer from that heavy metal band 'Pantera'. |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:26 AM
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First Ballot Group: Team BU Posts: 18,135 Joined: 8-December 04 From: New York Member No.: 1,262 |
I think it gets pinned on Haye because of the fact that he pulled out of signed fights with these guys multiple times already.
So now Wlad has no faith in the guy actually showing up to fight him and he doesn't want to sit idle until July 2nd only to have Haye pull out again, and he has opted to fight on April 30th as well. Haye was given first crack at the April date and declined due to TV issues (Amir Khan fight a couple weeks later / Royal wedding) and Wlad decided to take care of the Chisora fight on that date but at the same time do the Haye fight on July 2nd. I don't really see the issue with that, nor do I see the issue with taking a fight in April before the July 2nd Haye fight. If Haye is willing to fight Wlad on July 2nd if he doesn't fight Chisora, he should just fight him on July 2nd even with the Chisora fight happening. Wlad isn't going to let Haye tell him not to take a fight...and Haye is going to take the approach that the time lines are unreasonable. |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:36 AM
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I'm sure this won't mean much to people on this forum but i personally know people that are very close to Adam Booth and they had absolutely no doubt that the fight was going to happen. The only reason that it hasn't happened sooner is 1) They felt they needed 12-18 months after entering the heavweight division for Haye to fill out and adjust to the higher weight and 2) They wanted to make as much money as possible before fighting Wlad. Neither of these goals seem a lot to ask. The Haye camp spent most of December and the holiday period trying to iron out a deal which they thought was a green light. I was told just after Xmas that the fight was definitely going to happen.
Back in 2005 after winning the European cruiserweight title Haye said in a post fight interview that he intended to retire before his 30th birthday. He has since moved the date forward a year so that he can achieve his dream of unifying the titles. Now that Wlad is fighting on April 30th there is NO WAY that the July 2nd fight is going to happen. In addition, the Klits are asking for a rematch clause which they know Haye will not be able to honour if he sticks to his plans to retire before 31. The general consensus in London is that the Klits are pushing for a Haye/Vitali match up which they think will be easier to win. This is just plain bad business and leaves a very bad taste in the mouth for future negotiations. Say what you want about Haye as a person but make no mistake, the Klitchko's are to blame for the latest turn of events. |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:45 AM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 3,373 |
.......and now this Adamek fight....frickin undebelievable!
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