Replies

[Warlord]

Not doing a RBR, but will post from time to time to give my thoughts about what's going on. Anyone else watching this? Alistair Overeem's shitty brother is up next, taking on K-1 fighter Ray Sefo.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Thats exactly my point warlord, one of sak forgotten victories is over a fighter who was better than one of silvas best opponents ever.

Silva is a very good fighter, but he is also a product of a very weak division, and the UFC hype machine.

[kidbazooka1]

Thats exactly my point warlord, one of sak forgotten victories is over a fighter who was better than one of silvas best opponents ever.

Who Vovchanchyn? Better than Henderson.....Hell NO.

Vovchancyn was a good fighter but with very limited ground skills. Like Fedor he was wreckless with his stand up he carried good power but with very little technique behind it.

Hahahahahahah better than Hendo you guys are too much.

[Warlord]

Who Vovchanchyn? Better than Henderson.....Hell NO.

Vovchancyn was a good fighter but with very limited ground skills. Like Fedor he was wreckless with his stand up he carried good power but with very little technique behind it.

Hahahahahahah better than Hendo you guys are too much.

I think he was referring to Guy Mezger being better than Rich Franklin.

As for Hendo, Silva has a victory over an old Dan Henderson and Sakuraba has a victory over a young Rampage Jackson, so now what?

I've posted it before if anyone cares to go back and look; Sakuraba has a MUCH higher finish rate over his opponents than Anderson Silva, and he has the better comp record as well. So semantically you can argue what you will, but statistically Sakuraba had a better prime career than Anderson. Though Anderson is still close to his prime and has a chance to shore up his legacy, if only he'll grow a pair and fight the champion at 205 instead of hoping to beat up on an overblown welterweight.

[kidbazooka1]

I think he was referring to Guy Mezger being better than Rich Franklin.

As for Hendo, Silva has a victory over an old Dan Henderson and Sakuraba has a victory over a young Rampage Jackson, so now what?

I've posted it before if anyone cares to go back and look; Sakuraba has a MUCH higher finish rate over his opponents than Anderson Silva, and he has the better comp record as well. So semantically you can argue what you will, but statistically Sakuraba had a better prime career than Anderson. Though Anderson is still close to his prime and has a chance to shore up his legacy, if only he'll grow a pair and fight the champion at 205 instead of hoping to beat up on an overblown welterweight.

Haha War you can't pull that one on me bro. Rampage had not reached his peak when Sak beat him anyone even a TUFFY could tell you that.

Hendo had just KTFO of Wanderlie and lost the belt to Rampage in a very close five rd war when Anderson whooped him with ease.

Sak also has like 12 more losses than Silva so.

Don't get me wrong i like Sak he was a bad dude but like i tell GSP fans there's no shame in being second best to Anderson Silva.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Haha War you can't pull that one on me bro. Rampage had not reached his peak when Sak beat him anyone even a TUFFY could tell you that.

Hendo had just KTFO of Wanderlie and lost the belt to Rampage in a very close five rd war when Anderson whooped him with ease.

Sak also has like 12 more losses than Silva so.

Don't get me wrong i like Sak he was a bad dude but like i tell GSP fans there's no shame in being second best to Anderson Silva.

I would like to know when exactly you think rampages prime was. Dude, I nor warlord started watching mma when tuff started. In fact I have followed mma for almost 20 years. silva is a great fighter, but the man cant carry saks jock strap.

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Feb 19 2011, 03:22 AM

[kidbazooka1]

silva is a great fighter, but the man cant carry saks jock strap.

See comments like that just make me laugh no one in there right minds will say sh*t like that.....well maybe except for Silva haters.

As i have stated in the past i've been watching MMA since 96/97 when Vitor burst into the scene. I was actually anti-UFC in the early 00's all i watched was Pride that is unitl i found out Anderson got signed to the UFC and was gonna wreck havoc on the MW division.

War i like how all of a sudden when Page came to the UFC he turned into a one diminnsional fighter yet he had just taken out Liddell who was arguably the #1 LHW and on a brutal tear in the UFC.

C'mon man if where gonna try to discredit every fighter to discredit Silva's opponents i can do that too with any other fighter.

Look fellas i know the sport is still very much in it's infancy so to find truly great fighters in this sport could be difficult. Anderson, Fedor(despite my bashing of him LOL), GSP, Sak to name a few but alot of there comp might just be very good fighers but not great.

In my opninion Anderson is the greatets ever SO FAR but not because the UFC and the hype machine says so but because the run he's had and the level of his skill and the way he wins most of the time.

Though i won't say that i think he'll hold that title for 50-60 yrs like Robinson did in boxing but for now he's the best ever. Im not trying to make you guys agree with me but it's fun being able to discuss MMA with ppl who actaully have a bit of knowledge about it.

This post has been edited by kidbazooka1: Feb 19 2011, 04:51 PM

[Warlord]

War i like how all of a sudden when Page came to the UFC he turned into a one diminnsional fighter yet he had just taken out Liddell who was arguably the #1 LHW and on a brutal tear in the UFC.

Liddell was always over-rated in my book. Another one-dimensional fighter. You can check my post history to confirm that. I was one of the few guys on this board to pick Rampage over Liddell in brutal fashion. Rampage KO'ing Liddell doesn't mean much in my book. That's what he should've done. Doesn't mean he isn't one dimensional. It just means he was better at that dimension than Chuck.

C'mon man if where gonna try to discredit every fighter to discredit Silva's opponents i can do that too with any other fighter.

Sure we can. I mentioned Dan being old against Silva because you said Rampage was young against Sakuraba. Fire with fire, my friend. I personally don't like playing that game, but I'm not above it.

In my opninion Anderson is the greatets ever SO FAR but not because the UFC and the hype machine says so but because the run he's had and the level of his skill and the way he wins most of the time.

And there are many here who disagree. Doesn't make them nut-huggers or haters. It just makes them of differing opinion.

Though i won't say that i think he'll hold that title for 50-60 yrs like Robinson did in boxing but for now he's the best ever. Im not trying to make you guys agree with me but it's fun being able to discuss MMA with ppl who actaully have a bit of knowledge about it.

Agreed. No hard feelings here. It would be boring if everyone had the same opinions.

By the way, just to put it out there, I don't think Anderson Silva has evolved much past his Pride days. I just think he's had the right match-ups. He nearly shit the bed against Chael Sonnen, and proved why I picked Sonnen in the first place. Anderson is mentally weak, and can be taken down at will by any fighter whose willing to sack up and go for it.

In Japan there were plenty, because of that Samurai spirit you still find in fighters there. In the UFC... not so much. But the weaknesses are still there. And I still see them.