[kidbazooka1]

I won't bother to debate Saku's victory over Vitor to Anderson's. Anderson won by front kick. Saku did an M. Bison (Street Fighter II) flying face stomp on Vitor, and literally took his heart in that fight. Saku wins on cool points there.

Come one war i thought we was gonna keep it real. You ask anyone what was more impressive a double stomp that Saku did which didn't do sh*t to Vitor or a f*cking front kick to the jaw that knocked Vitor the f*ck out cold.

Lets keep it real bro.

Silva doesn't need any wrestling type entrances he's the p4p best in the world knocking fools out like nothing.

Give it time though im sure you will come to appreciate Silva's craft when he's done.

[Warlord]

Come one war i thought we was gonna keep it real. You ask anyone what was more impressive a double stomp that Saku did which didn't do sh*t to Vitor or a f*cking front kick to the jaw that knocked Vitor the f*ck out cold.

Lets keep it real bro.

I said Saku won on cool points. And he did. Are we really gonna sit here and debate cool points now? Lol. Come on, bro.

Silva doesn't need any wrestling type entrances he's the p4p best in the world knocking fools out like nothing.

He doesn't need 'em, but he sure could use 'em. Coming to the ring and stinking up the goddamn joint on multiple occasions. There's a reason the fans boo his ass like nobody's business. They don't like him.

Give it time though im sure you will come to appreciate Silva's craft when he's done.

I appreciate him. I just don't over-appreciate him. I appreciate him for what he's actually done, not for what Dana White and the UFC would have you believe he's done.

[kidbazooka1]

I said Saku won on cool points. And he did. Are we really gonna sit here and debate cool points now? Lol. Come on, bro.



He doesn't need 'em, but he sure could use 'em. Coming to the ring and stinking up the goddamn joint on multiple occasions. There's a reason the fans boo his ass like nobody's business. They don't like him.

Most of these so called MMA fans(TUF Noobs) don't know sh*t about fighting you now that. They boo fighters within 1 min if they don't start swinging for the fences.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Thats exactly my point warlord, one of sak forgotten victories is over a fighter who was better than one of silvas best opponents ever.

Silva is a very good fighter, but he is also a product of a very weak division, and the UFC hype machine.

[kidbazooka1]

Thats exactly my point warlord, one of sak forgotten victories is over a fighter who was better than one of silvas best opponents ever.

Who Vovchanchyn? Better than Henderson.....Hell NO.

Vovchancyn was a good fighter but with very limited ground skills. Like Fedor he was wreckless with his stand up he carried good power but with very little technique behind it.

Hahahahahahah better than Hendo you guys are too much.

[Warlord]

Who Vovchanchyn? Better than Henderson.....Hell NO.

Vovchancyn was a good fighter but with very limited ground skills. Like Fedor he was wreckless with his stand up he carried good power but with very little technique behind it.

Hahahahahahah better than Hendo you guys are too much.

I think he was referring to Guy Mezger being better than Rich Franklin.

As for Hendo, Silva has a victory over an old Dan Henderson and Sakuraba has a victory over a young Rampage Jackson, so now what?

I've posted it before if anyone cares to go back and look; Sakuraba has a MUCH higher finish rate over his opponents than Anderson Silva, and he has the better comp record as well. So semantically you can argue what you will, but statistically Sakuraba had a better prime career than Anderson. Though Anderson is still close to his prime and has a chance to shore up his legacy, if only he'll grow a pair and fight the champion at 205 instead of hoping to beat up on an overblown welterweight.

[kidbazooka1]

I think he was referring to Guy Mezger being better than Rich Franklin.

As for Hendo, Silva has a victory over an old Dan Henderson and Sakuraba has a victory over a young Rampage Jackson, so now what?

I've posted it before if anyone cares to go back and look; Sakuraba has a MUCH higher finish rate over his opponents than Anderson Silva, and he has the better comp record as well. So semantically you can argue what you will, but statistically Sakuraba had a better prime career than Anderson. Though Anderson is still close to his prime and has a chance to shore up his legacy, if only he'll grow a pair and fight the champion at 205 instead of hoping to beat up on an overblown welterweight.

Haha War you can't pull that one on me bro. Rampage had not reached his peak when Sak beat him anyone even a TUFFY could tell you that.

Hendo had just KTFO of Wanderlie and lost the belt to Rampage in a very close five rd war when Anderson whooped him with ease.

Sak also has like 12 more losses than Silva so.

Don't get me wrong i like Sak he was a bad dude but like i tell GSP fans there's no shame in being second best to Anderson Silva.

[Run and Gun Game...]

Haha War you can't pull that one on me bro. Rampage had not reached his peak when Sak beat him anyone even a TUFFY could tell you that.

Hendo had just KTFO of Wanderlie and lost the belt to Rampage in a very close five rd war when Anderson whooped him with ease.

Sak also has like 12 more losses than Silva so.

Don't get me wrong i like Sak he was a bad dude but like i tell GSP fans there's no shame in being second best to Anderson Silva.

I would like to know when exactly you think rampages prime was. Dude, I nor warlord started watching mma when tuff started. In fact I have followed mma for almost 20 years. silva is a great fighter, but the man cant carry saks jock strap.

This post has been edited by Run and Gun Game Calls: Feb 19 2011, 03:22 AM

[Warlord]

Haha War you can't pull that one on me bro. Rampage had not reached his peak when Sak beat him anyone even a TUFFY could tell you that.

I know, I thought I was pretty clear though. Rampage was sub-prime against Sakuraba and Henderson was post-prime against Anderson. Dan going 5 hard rounds with a plodding, one dimensional fighter like the UFC-version of Rampage Jackson does nothing to lend credibility to the implied notion that he was somehow still in his prime against Anderson. He wasn't. Dan is old, nothing can change that.

Him KO'ing Wanderlei means nothing either. Prime Wanderlei wiped his ass with Dan Henderson. Henderson only KO'd the brain-scrambled Wanderlei presented to him by Mirko Cro-Cop. (Prime Wanderlei also wiped his ass with Mirko.)

Anderson didn't "whoop him with ease" either. Dan beat Anderson up in Round 1, and won the round cleanly. His main problem was the same problem he always has at middleweight: He gassed. The weigh cut kills Dan, and he's always been shit at middle. He belongs at 205, and he himself has said so on numerous occasions.

Sak also has like 12 more losses than Silva so.

Saku's prime was effectively destroyed by his constant wars with much biggers fighters who outweighed him by 20-30lbs. I can count the number of times he fought an opponent his size or smaller on my hand. Literally. Pride killed Saku. But it doesn't change the fact he was a great, great fighter, and one that would've tooled any version of Anderson Silva you put in the ring with him.

Don't get me wrong i like Sak he was a bad dude but like i tell GSP fans there's no shame in being second best to Anderson Silva.

But there is shame, apparently, in ranking Anderson Silva anything less than GOAT to his 2 fans left. Why? Is it so hard to admit the man has obvious flaws in his game, and despite it, he remains one of the top P4P fighters in the world? I don't think that is an insult. I think it is reality.

[Warlord]

I would like to know when exactly you think rampages prime was. Dude, I nor warlord started watching mma when tuff started. In fact I have followed mma for almost 20 years. silva is a great fighter, but the man cant carry saks jock strap.

I once thought Royce Gracie was the greatest fighter that ever lived, lol. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That outta tell you when I started watching. I remember seeing UFC 1 with my brother and thinking it was the greatest thing ever. Going to Japan and being there when Pride took off took it to a whole new level.

In fact, I'll tell you guys a secret. I wasn't originally a Sakuraba fan. I liked the Gracies at that time, because I was still young and dumb and thought they were the best and Sakuraba had shit on them. But watching him in action at the Pride Grand Prix, I mean damn, you had no choice but to love the guy. His fighting spirit, his showmanship, his good nature. I really miss those times, now that I think back to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cray.gif) Saku, Igor, Wandy, Fedor, Big Nog, Rampage (when he was still slamming mother fuckers), and then Ninja and Shogun, goddamn those were the days.

Now we get Brock Lesnar with a box-top haircut and a penis tattoo on his chest, and some chubby, Big Mac eating Michael Jackson wannabe dancing all around the ring with his ugly ass. What a shame.