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On April 8th David Lemieux takes his next step towards global middleweight super-stardom when he faces the experienced Mexican, Marco Antonio Rubio.  This is something of an acid test for David who would be wise not to overlook the vastly more experienced Rubio.  Marco has heavy hands and if he manages to land a bomb on Lemieux we will all find out if, as I believe, David is the real thing.
  I take David to blast Rubio out in frightening fashion, sending out a statement of intent to the rest of the middleweight division, none more so than champion Martinez.  There are many skeptics claiming the Canadian will be exposed when he gets hit, or when his devastating punching power isn't enough to take his man out, and his stamina is found wanting. Rubio is on a 6 fight winning streak since his uninspired defeat by Kelly Pavlik but he is not the man to upset Lemieux.

David Lemieux KO 2.

[JLUVBABY]

in all fairness mexicutioner made some good points... first of all this is boxing... the opponent is supposed to have a chance or why even fight.... boxing needs more fights like that where the prospect truly gets tested... now lemieux's team has an idea of what they need to work on and tweak some things... which leads me to number 2... the kid is only 22 years old and he fought a good solid vet last night... it was a good learning fight for the kid if he is able to deal with the defeat... honestly the state of boxing is getting to the point to where the undefeated (zero losses) means dollar signs but it dont necc mean skill level... a lot of these guys rack off these undefeated records vs has beens and no hopers and get spanked on the world level because they are under prepared... id rather band wagon a fighter that has tested himself against good solid pros and tweaked what he needed to tweak before going into the big fights... the kid has a lot of time to learn from his mistakes.. all it means is his team can slow down the express train to the title and let the kid better learn his craft... NOW, with all that said he may still prove to be a b level fighter when its all said and done but i think some are a little quick to brand the kid a hype job just yet... truth is he can fight.... he got caught and its fights like that that keep boxings lights on... those types of fights have to happen... khan was one punch k.o'd and now some consider him the best 140 lber in boxing... lets see how the kid comes back and what, if anything, he learns from his first defeat....

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in all fairness mexicutioner made some good points... first of all this is boxing... the opponent is supposed to have a chance or why even fight.... boxing needs more fights like that where the prospect truly gets tested... now lemieux's team has an idea of what they need to work on and tweak some things... which leads me to number 2... the kid is only 22 years old and he fought a good solid vet last night... it was a good learning fight for the kid if he is able to deal with the defeat... honestly the state of boxing is getting to the point to where the undefeated (zero losses) means dollar signs but it dont necc mean skill level... a lot of these guys rack off these undefeated records vs has beens and no hopers and get spanked on the world level because they are under prepared... id rather band wagon a fighter that has tested himself against good solid pros and tweaked what he needed to tweak before going into the big fights... the kid has a lot of time to learn from his mistakes.. all it means is his team can slow down the express train to the title and let the kid better learn his craft... NOW, with all that said he may still prove to be a b level fighter when its all said and done but i think some are a little quick to brand the kid a hype job just yet... truth is he can fight.... he got caught and its fights like that that keep boxings lights on... those types of fights have to happen... khan was one punch k.o'd and now some consider him the best 140 lber in boxing... lets see how the kid comes back and what, if anything, he learns from his first defeat....

maybe before. i don't see how you could believe some bullshit like that though J. was Mayweather/Marquez supposed to be a fight where the fighter had a chance? all through the rankings of boxing there are fights where if the favorite doesn't win it's an upset and most of the time it isn't by chance. there's a reason to fight people that have no chance and it's because you get paid lol.

Ohh my bad u boxed for 4 years. In that case talk all the shit you want. Give me a break. I don't think trashing a guy and calling him a bum is much of an opinion. In any case Lemieux is very young and still has lots of boxing ahead of him. I think Lemieux domination of lesser opposition was is down fall as be thought he could do the same with any fighters. Boxing reality can be harsh. He got way a head of himself. But being so young he still has a future.

Were you any good when you boxed for those 4 years gravytrain? Did you box professionally or just golden gloves or just trained? Where did you box?

or he was matched poorly and they did nothing to make him grow as a fighter by feeding him no hopers. i don't think Lemieux minded since he called out Martinez. he's just another fighter that padded his resume then got exposed. if you want to talk shit like you're the best then you open yourself up for criticism. Lemieux did exactly that and lost to a B fighter.

i don't live in Mexico, i couldn't have turned pro at the ages i boxed lol. i wasn't bad, i did a lot of small regional tournaments but couldn't really do GG because i couldn't get out of school.

Lol You guys are ridiculous calling him a bum and shit. The dude is 22 years old and still has all the potential in the world, in fact he was winning that fight 5 rounds to 1 and I had him winning that 7th round until the knockdown and stoppage. You guys are judging this dude cus he gets a lil hype so alot of u hope he gets exposed and most of you guys have never seen more than a fight or a couple quick highlight vids. The kid got caught flush and it ended in his own demise.. But I still think the kid can definitely become a titleholder and if there were a rematch, i'd have my money on Lemieux to win the rematch judging by how he was doing vs. Rubio throughout the greater portion of the fight; granted, he's gotta do some fine tweaking but he'll be ok. Shiet, you fools act like cus a fighter gets caught by a good punch and loses a bout suddenly he's a bum not every1 that loses a bout automatically becomes a bum; That's jus the type of sport boxing is, every1 has a puncher's chance to win a fight.

what was there other than highlight vids? they matched him against such shitty opposition that he was blowing through all of them. he might have even blown a couple.

that shit wasn't just a fluke punch, Rubio came alive in the 2nd half of the fight. if not for that he would have kept getting knocked down and eventually he really would have been stopped, his trainer just knew it wasn't happening for him so he ended it.

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maybe before. i don't see how you could believe some bullshit like that though J. was Mayweather/Marquez supposed to be a fight where the fighter had a chance? all through the rankings of boxing there are fights where if the favorite doesn't win it's an upset and most of the time it isn't by chance. there's a reason to fight people that have no chance and it's because you get paid lol.

yeah i believe that what i said thats why i typed it... lol... a few people on this board felt marquez could win the fight... no matter how you try to twist it this is boxing... anything can happen at any given time... just cuzz you dont see something a certain way doesnt make it not so... lemieux isnt all of a sudden a trash fighter cuzz of one loss... and you say that like rubio is just a punk fighter?... lol... the guy is a seasoned vet.... he is supposed to have some kind of a chance vs such a green kid...

hopkins lost his first fight... guys like freddie pendleton where less than .500 fighters at certain points of their careers... and to compare a mayweather fight to a lemieux type of fighter at this stage of his career is a little far left dont you think?... thats an apples and oranges type of comparison...

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yeah i believe that what i said thats why i typed it... lol... a few people on this board felt marquez could win the fight... no matter how you try to twist it this is boxing... anything can happen at any given time... just cuzz you dont see something a certain way doesnt make it not so... lemieux isnt all of a sudden a trash fighter cuzz of one loss... and you say that like rubio is just a punk fighter?... lol... the guy is a seasoned vet.... he is supposed to have some kind of a chance vs such a green kid...

hopkins lost his first fight... guys like freddie pendleton where less than .500 fighters at certain points of their careers... and to compare a mayweather fight to a lemieux type of fighter at this stage of his career is a little far left dont you think?... thats an apples and oranges type of comparison...

it's a case of a huge mismatch where it wasn't going to be any competition at all. people can give it a chance all they want to but if they're not willing to lay some money on it then it's just talking. i really doubt anyone would have put money on Marquez over Mayweather, at most someone may have bet on the scores and given him a couple rounds.

Lemieux isn't all of a sudden a trash fighter, he's been. he just looked good because there was nobody in front of him. the Detroit Lions would look like the baddest motherfuckers in the NFL if they played against a high school team but that translates to nothing once they step it up. he's the potential to rebound since he's still young but i really doubt he'll beat any top 160 lber. Rubio is seasoned, i'm not denying that, but facts are facts and he hasn't had much opposition since his loss to Pavlik and on paper should have been an easy fight for Lemieux. i really just thought this would be about like Pac/Clottey but i'm happy to see Rubio stop Lemieux, hopefully the man starts fighting more because he can be competitive if he just doesn't let himself get outworked. Rubio coming in as a unranked 8/1 underdog wasn't unfair to him either and Lemieux and his team very much thought as this as just an easy way to a title.

the kid turned pro when he was 18 who else were they gona match him up against? top contenders? seasoned veterans? fuck that, the kid has barely developed the strength and physique to be facing that level of opposition at such a young age and within the past year he's been stepping up the level of opposition and got caught by a solid punch by Rubio, it's as easy as that. Yea Rubio was coming alive, but Lemieux was clearly winning the fight 5 rounds to 1 and was looking to take that 7th round as well before the knockdown. Shit, a kid with high expectations who shows all the potential in the world loses a bout and he never lives it down; i mean, Even if the kid didn't lose he'd still be considered a "hype job" by every1 and his opposition still wouldn't have been good enough smh. just like how people continue to rag on Khan for being overrated cus he got caught flush and lost ONE fight, the fact he was able to stand in there and survive the final 3 rounds with Maidana means nothing to people despite the tenacity he displayed staying up and not going down. the kid is 22, young and was fighting a good fight. he clealry needs to go back to the drawing board and fix things up but the kid is still capable of big things just cus he loses ONE fight doesn't mean shit, give him an opportunity to bounce back, one loss doesn't mean the end of a career by any means

if they increased his quality of opposition instead of giving him bums that didn't stand a chance he might not have got stopped by Rubio. all Lemieux and his team did was sandbag. you can't expect to get better at anything if you don't challenge yourself.

i don't see why people bring up Khan, they've about the same amount of fights but Khan already stepped it up and did it after getting his ass kicked. he called out Maidana and beat him. Lemieux has done what, fight a B fighter? Khan has done much more with his number of fights than Lemieux and will most likely be fighting Bradley while Lemieux is still fighting cab drivers. there's a chance Lemieux can rebound but i really don't see him ever living up to his hype or what he thought he was when he was beating up on cans.

lol good news for u but or the sport of boxing, boxing could use more fighters like Lemieux. Young kids with charisma, fan appeal and KO power who can draw big crowds and generate more revenue that most world champs...regardless of the win, Rubio doesn't and isn't gonna attract flies.

maybe Canadian boxing, this cat wasn't doing anything for the sport. if anything he should have got some real challenges before even being able to fight in a title eliminator. Rubio might not attract flies but he sure can send fools running to their dressing room.

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it's a case of a huge mismatch where it wasn't going to be any competition at all. people can give it a chance all they want to but if they're not willing to lay some money on it then it's just talking. i really doubt anyone would have put money on Marquez over Mayweather, at most someone may have bet on the scores and given him a couple rounds.

Lemieux isn't all of a sudden a trash fighter, he's been. he just looked good because there was nobody in front of him. the Detroit Lions would look like the baddest motherfuckers in the NFL if they played against a high school team but that translates to nothing once they step it up. he's the potential to rebound since he's still young but i really doubt he'll beat any top 160 lber. Rubio is seasoned, i'm not denying that, but facts are facts and he hasn't had much opposition since his loss to Pavlik and on paper should have been an easy fight for Lemieux. i really just thought this would be about like Pac/Clottey but i'm happy to see Rubio stop Lemieux, hopefully the man starts fighting more because he can be competitive if he just doesn't let himself get outworked. Rubio coming in as a unranked 8/1 underdog wasn't unfair to him either and Lemieux and his team very much thought as this as just an easy way to a title.



if they increased his quality of opposition instead of giving him bums that didn't stand a chance he might not have got stopped by Rubio. all Lemieux and his team did was sandbag. you can't expect to get better at anything if you don't challenge yourself.

i don't see why people bring up Khan, they've about the same amount of fights but Khan already stepped it up and did it after getting his ass kicked. he called out Maidana and beat him. Lemieux has done what, fight a B fighter? Khan has done much more with his number of fights than Lemieux and will most likely be fighting Bradley while Lemieux is still fighting cab drivers. there's a chance Lemieux can rebound but i really don't see him ever living up to his hype or what he thought he was when he was beating up on cans.




maybe Canadian boxing, this cat wasn't doing anything for the sport. if anything he should have got some real challenges before even being able to fight in a title eliminator. Rubio might not attract flies but he sure can send fools running to their dressing room.

You clearly don't know much about Lemieux if you have a problem with the quality of oppositions. THe dude has been raised very well by his management team, just last year he fought aseasoned veteran in Walid Smichet and Hector Camacho Jr. and Elvin Ayala, a dude who drew with Sergio Mora and challenged Arthur Abraham for the title and went 12 rounds. Those dudes all have tons of experience and i don't know about ubut I wouldn't call a dude who challenges for a title and draws with world champs a taxi driver.

I bring up Khan cus Khan is a similar same case in point; he was knocked out by a huge underdog in a fight by a solid punch and every1 started coming out calling Khan overrated with a padded record who fought tomato cans and expired veterans. motherfuckers were judging a fighter's entire career and potential based on one fight....now he's got a world title and beating opposition that are way better and way heavier hitters than Prescott at lightweight. Difference between Lemieux and Khan in their losses is Khan was stopped by one punch and out, while Lemieux was dominating Rubio and looked like he was going to end the fight early till Rubio scored big with a solid punch but he was virtually down 6-1 on the cards. You act like Rubio wiped the floor with this kid when it was the other way around for the greater majority of the fight.

If filling up stadiums, generating solid revenue, getting views on national television and bringing excitement isn't good for boxing (only Canadian boxing) then what is good for boxing? You jus hatin' cus Canada actually support and stand behind their fighters and dish out some money to watch them on TV and in the stadiums, while alot of Americans either don't know or give a fuck about most of their fighters.

This post has been edited by mexi-cutioner: Apr 10 2011, 02:38 AM