[Nay_Sayer]

What would you say is the cut off point to remove Mayweather completely from the p4p rankings in terms of inactivity? I mean, how long should he be given?

Honestly, I don't know. I guess he should be removed once it becomes clear that he's not going to fight anymore. Obviously it's tough to come to that conclusion with a 100 million dollar fight potentially looming...

[edd098]

Honestly, I don't know. I guess he should be removed once it becomes clear that he's not going to fight anymore. Obviously it's tough to come to that conclusion with a 100 million dollar fight potentially looming...

how about may 1, 2011. 1 year removed from his last fight with mosley. would that be enough?

[Spyder]

What would you say is the cut off point to remove Mayweather completely from the p4p rankings in terms of inactivity? I mean, how long should he be given?

Floyd has said that he's not even thinking about boxing, he has actively refused to negotiate his next fight, and his only planned fight is in a courtroom. Until any of those change, he's just another rich guy with legal issues.

[gravytrain]

1.Mayweather
2.Pac
3.Donaire
4.Hopkins
5.Martinez
6.Marquez
7. Ward
8.Bradley
9.Wlad
10.Khan

[and the NEW]

I just changed mine. Martinez back at 4 and Donaire at 5.

Maxy and Jluv, thx for the updates.

Sorry guys, been flat out at work so haven't got to compilling all the lists yet.

As per Fitz I think I may change my list a little also, top 4 remain the same but the rest I can't seem to come to any concrete conclusions on.

Also, all, make sure any variations to your lists are done by Thursday night at the latest NY time, because I will add the lists to the spreadsheet sometime Friday morning and changes from then will not be able to be made.

Cheers

This post has been edited by and the NEW: Feb 22 2011, 10:35 PM

[SmartyBeardo]

That is an odd list Beardo, which Klit sister?

IMO, The Klit Sisters = 1 heavyweight champion. They rule as one, choosing opponents that fit each individual Klit's skill set. History will treat them accordingly so I have chosen to treat them that way now.

Wow. Could you try your best to break some of your list down? Good list, just curious to see your reasons for your rankings on number 1, 2, 4, 9 & 10? lol

As for the more popular choice of Mayweather/Pacquaio being number one, I think both maybe getting used to being regarded so high they forgot they had to actually had to work to get there, and gotta continue. They are both treading on very thin ice with Mayweather not testing himself like he should and most importantly being inactive could drop him off the lists all together.

As for Manny his approach to not only choosing his own opponents but has the nerves to choose a poor selection of opponents over legit fights is hurting not only his p4p status but also his career. Both fighters are slackin big time which they haven't really raised the bar that high in recent years it's understandable many fighters a creeping up, if not, already over taken them on several p4p lists! Big things have happened in boxing in the last 6 months or so where a lot of fighters are either coming out of their shells or rising to the occasion.

1. SMartinez defeated Pavlik and fellow P4Per at the time PWill in 2010, decisively. Now he is fighting a tough, undefeated, Eastern Euro fighter (Dzinziruk) who has been the WBO light middleweight title holder since 2005. Meanwhile, Pac is fighting another fighter's leftovers, again, and that fighter (PBF) just isn't sure if anyone or his fans are worthy of seeing him fight again.

If Dzinziruk defeats SMartinez, I will rate him above both the concensus P4P prima donas.

2. Bradley just keeps beating up legit competition. Go ahead and start your fukin bellyachin about headbutts. Bradley is tough, skilled and has the heart of a wolverine. What Tim has been doing compared to Pac and PBF is like comparing MMA to pro wrestling. Bradley keeps it real.

4. See above.

9 & 10 - PBF and Pac are about to fall out of my top ten criteria or not. PBF's game is old. "I'm the greatest. No one is worthy to see me demonstrate my greatness." Go fuck yourself in public a few more times and you will be doing your fighting incarcerated, fool.

Pac's game is almost as old and putrid. "I'm going to beat the fuck outta dudes better than other dudes have beaten the fuck outta them." Fuck you Team QuackMeow. Try fighting something other than exhibitions you team of bitches. BTW, how's that libel/slander/defamation suit against PBF going you bunch of fucking circus clowns?

And one last thing, (Boy I'm writing a lot here for a guy who hates p4p lists), LMFAO at all the dudes here trying to justify not having Mayweather and Pacquiao as their top 2 in whatever order. I hate Floyd more than anyone, but I know what's what. They're the man (men).

I believe it was Ric Flair who said to be the man you have to beat the man. Beating Paul Williams or Fernando Montiel does not make you the man.

So, your making an argument that SMartinez should beat Pac and PBF? I don't think he has a problem with that. And, BTW, if The Man don't fight, he aint The Man.

And an organ grinder's monkey aint The Man.

Maxy has a point about whether Mayweather should still be ranked number 2 P4P. He beat Mosley in May and has not done anything since, while guys like Martinez, Marquez, Donaire and Bradley have fought the best in their divisions, multiple times now.

. . . and now Pac is fighting who? Fuck em both.

[and the NEW]

Beardo, you need to choose one as they are assigned points depending on rankings. You cannot include two on the list, if you do, I will put them in at the place they are given and the one below (and give them the average points of those two spots on the list combined) and drop out the 10th fighter on your list as you can only include 10.

This post has been edited by and the NEW: Feb 22 2011, 10:40 PM

[SmartyBeardo]

Beardo, you need to choose one as they are assigned points depending on rankings. You cannot include two on the list, if you do, I will put them in at the place they are given and the one below (and give them the average points of those two spots on the list combined) and drop out the 10th fighter on your list as you can only include 10.

Just a second, I'm pulling out a coin. Heads its Sister Vitali. Tails its Sister Wlad . . . tails it is.

[and the NEW]

ha ha ok.

The rest look good, just need Kidbazooka to add 6-10 if he wants his list included and anyone else who wants their list in before Friday morning.

This post has been edited by and the NEW: Feb 22 2011, 10:54 PM

[SENTRAL]

1-Pac

2-May

3-Martinez

4-Doniare

5-JM Marquez

6-Ward

7-JM Lopez

8-Froch

9-Bradley

10-Bute