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[Jack 1000]

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[Jack 1000]

I want to see Berto fight a real ww contender.

Everyone wants to see Berto tested. We almost had that with the unification against Mosley before the Haitian Earthquake understandably forced Berto out. But now, he has got to fight someone with a chance to threaten his undefeated record. This guy's gonna make Mark Breland look like a legend the way he's going. (hahahaha)

Jack

[gravytrain]

Everyone wants to see Berto tested. We almost had that with the unification against Mosley before the Haitian Earthquake understandably forced Berto out. But now, he has got to fight someone with a chance to threaten his undefeated record. This guy's gonna make Mark Breland look like a legend the way he's going. (hahahaha)

Jack

after the Hernandez fight he should have said "i'm done with the appetizers HBO, i'm ready for my salad and bread".

we are all tired of it... but the same can be said for alverez... he beat mathew hatton for the vacant title and hadnt beaten anyone of note to deserve a shot at that title in the first place...

it wouldn't surprise me to see them in a similar situation, Alvarez is just much more marketable. promoters aren't dumb, Tecate is balls deep in boxing right now and that's because of the huge Latino interest in it. Alvarez had 10,000 people when he headlined against Hatton and at the end of Mosley/Mora everyone was shouting Canelo. this guy has one of the biggest demographics in America and it already loves boxing, GBP/DLH are gonna be extra careful with the golden ginger to try to get that big payday and keep it coming in as easy as possible.

[JLUVBABY]

after the Hernandez fight he should have said "i'm done with the appetizers HBO, i'm ready for my salad and bread".



it wouldn't surprise me to see them in a similar situation, Alvarez is just much more marketable. promoters aren't dumb, Tecate is balls deep in boxing right now and that's because of the huge Latino interest in it. Alvarez had 10,000 people when he headlined against Hatton and at the end of Mosley/Mora everyone was shouting Canelo. this guy has one of the biggest demographics in America and it already loves boxing, GBP/DLH are gonna be extra careful with the golden ginger to try to get that big payday and keep it coming in as easy as possible.

at the end of the day they wont be able to keep feeding him softies... i mean i know he fell in to this title shot with hatton but that was past a gimmie... even his most loyal fans will turn on him if he starts feasting on the bobby pacs and mathew hatts of the world... that shit wont fly for long... even pac mania is not as strong as it used to be... and it dont get bigger than that... at the end of the day people pay their hard earned money to watch these guys fight and they want to see good fights... no way alvarez gets away with this level of comp... the way i see it he will be a ppv guy sooner than later and he will have to up his game to some real contenders... age aside which has been the excuse for some he gets beat when his game steps up... the guy is not very skilled and is slow... what he has is plenty of pressure and a better than good punch... we shall see tho... he'll be fun to watch i figure but they have to up his level of comp... last saturday was highway robbery for the people that pay for hbo like i do for its boxing...

This post has been edited by JLUVBABY: Mar 7 2011, 05:05 PM

[gravytrain]

at the end of the day they wont be able to keep feeding him softies... i mean i know he fell in to this title shot with hatton but that was past a gimmie... even his most loyal fans will turn on him if he starts feasting on the bobby pacs and mathew hatts of the world... that shit wont fly for long... even pac mania is not as strong as it used to be... and it dont get bigger than that... at the end of the day people pay their hard earned money to watch these guys fight and they want to see good fights... no way alvarez gets away with this level of comp... the way i see it he will be a ppv guy sooner than later and he will have to up his game to some real contenders... age aside which has been the excuse for some he gets beat when his game steps up... the guy is not very skilled and is slow... what he has is plenty of pressure and a better than good punch... we shall see tho... he'll be fun to watch i figure but they have to up his level of comp... last saturday was highway robbery for the people that pay for hbo like i do for its boxing...

i don't know about that J, if he's making money fighting softies they'll keep him in the ring with softies. a big thing about being a mainstream success is what the mainstream audience knows about you and if ESPN or whoever else says it's a good fight they'll buy that shit up just like with all the other mismatched PPVs. time and time again promoters show they don't give a shit about what the boxing fan cares about, the boxing fans aren't getting fighters a million+ buys.

personally i think they want to keep him in the ring with lesser opposition then strike when they see weakness in a guy with a name, then they catch him on the downside of his career and can put the name on his resume.

[Jack 1000]

i don't know about that J, if he's making money fighting softies they'll keep him in the ring with softies. a big thing about being a mainstream success is what the mainstream audience knows about you and if ESPN or whoever else says it's a good fight they'll buy that shit up just like with all the other mismatched PPVs. time and time again promoters show they don't give a shit about what the boxing fan cares about, the boxing fans aren't getting fighters a million+ buys.

personally i think they want to keep him in the ring with lesser opposition then strike when they see weakness in a guy with a name, then they catch him on the downside of his career and can put the name on his resume.

Exactly, just like the WBC is doing with Chavez Jr. The same parallel might apply to Alverez.

Give the guy enough Emanuel Augustus type guys who come in to get rounds in, but the opponents of these fighters know that they will almost never win on the scorecards. Than, hope for a former superstar with a big name to come back for a one-night big money payday. (Delahoya, Trinidad etc.) Match the over-hyped guy with a faded star so he can win because faded star has nothing left. Than the over-hyped wonder can retire safely with his record intact. And with the millions that these guys are making for soft opposition, and HBO approving this for business deals instead of what the fans want, you can see why this boxing pattern today is hard to break.

Jack