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[Michigan Assassi...]

I'm sure a huge signing bonus is involved but other than that I don't understand this move by Donaire.

After Mares (if he wins the Showtime tourney) what other big fights can Golden Boy offer?

Not to mention the lawsuit that Arum is going to bring, which may very well keep ND on the shelf for a bit. Makes very little sense with all the momentum he's recently gained.

[Guest_Fitz_*]

I guess this means Donaire plans to stay at bantam for a while, cause Arum was not trying to hear about him fighting anyone from the Showtime tournament. He was all about 122, 126...

Exactly.

Yeah but Fitz do you think Golden Boy are going to do it any differently?

I don't know. At least with this, I have hope. Arum already scoffed at the suggestions that Donaire could fight one of the other champions at bantam. Like they were not worth it and he beats them on paper, so there isn't much point. He was already talking about a fight with Lopez or Gamboa. While minutes ago, Donaire was saying it was always his dream to become undisputed in a division and would love to fight the winner.
So to answer you question. I don't know if it will be done differently, but I hate Arum anyways, so I'm happy about that and there is hope at least. I suppose if Donaire's next fight is against one of the other bantams, I can say that Golden Boy have done it differently.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Exactly.



I don't know. At least with this, I have hope. Arum already scoffed at the suggestions that Donaire could fight one of the other champions at bantam. Like they were not worth it and he beats them on paper, so there isn't much point. He was already talking about a fight with Lopez or Gamboa. While minutes ago, Donaire was saying it was always his dream to become undisputed in a division and would love to fight the winner.
So to answer you question. I don't know if it will be done differently, but I hate Arum anyways, so I'm happy about that and there is hope at least. I suppose if Donaire's next fight is against one of the other bantams, I can say that Golden Boy have done it differently.

Given the chance Golden Boy will prove themselves to be bigger snakes than either Arum or King. Given their reasonably short history they've already indulged in some shady stuff like skimming the undercard fighters on the Khan/Malignaggi bill.

As for putting on good fights, these are the guys that deemed Mosley/Mora PPV worthy. That's gotta be the worst of the lot and were then prepared to fuck one of their own partners (Mosley) in his attempt to get a Pacquaio fight.

Just watch, they will fuck up Donaire's career just like they'll screw up Alvarez's. People are rejoicing now, and I understand why, Arum has gone out of his way to irritate hardcore fans for the last coupla years, but trust me long term this will not be a good move fo Donaire.

I really like Donaire, he is a class act and a monster in the ring and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure this move is for the best.

[gravytrain]

Given the chance Golden Boy will prove themselves to be bigger snakes than either Arum or King. Given their reasonably short history they've already indulged in some shady stuff like skimming the undercard fighters on the Khan/Malignaggi bill.

As for putting on good fights, these are the guys that deemed Mosley/Mora PPV worthy. That's gotta be the worst of the lot and were then prepared to fuck one of their own partners (Mosley) in his attempt to get a Pacquaio fight.

Just watch, they will fuck up Donaire's career just like they'll screw up Alvarez's. People are rejoicing now, and I understand why, Arum has gone out of his way to irritate hardcore fans for the last coupla years, but trust me long term this will not be a good move fo Donaire.

I really like Donaire, he is a class act and a monster in the ring and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure this move is for the best.

that's about like trying to decide what shit smells the worst, all of the promoters making any money are completely full of shit and only care about themselves. as for the choice of PPVs i'd say it's the same situation, all the major promoters, at this point GBP and TR, put out shitty PPVs for no other reason than they make more money than having it on HBO or Showtime for free.

personally i think GBP wil most definitely put him in the mix at bantamweight without messing around and they already have Mares so if things go well for him that's a potential opponent. Arum has also seemed to in my opinion neglect his other fighters if they're not Pac/can't fight Pac so maybe GBP will give him more attention and try to cash in on him sooner rather than later.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

that's about like trying to decide what shit smells the worst, all of the promoters making any money are completely full of shit and only care about themselves. as for the choice of PPVs i'd say it's the same situation, all the major promoters, at this point GBP and TR, put out shitty PPVs for no other reason than they make more money than having it on HBO or Showtime for free.

personally i think GBP wil most definitely put him in the mix at bantamweight without messing around and they already have Mares so if things go well for him that's a potential opponent. Arum has also seemed to in my opinion neglect his other fighters if they're not Pac/can't fight Pac so maybe GBP will give him more attention and try to cash in on him sooner rather than later.

I've yet to see any proof that Golden Shower Promotions know how to properly build up a fighter. I've seen them destroy a couple. I guess this will be a prime opportunity for the Swiss banker to prove me wrong.

[Byrd Man]

http://www.boxingscene.com/rachel-donaire-...lden-boy--37093

BoxingScene.com: How do you feel Nonito Donaire's stature has been affected by the fact that Manny Pacquiao is the top fighter in the Top Rank stable?

Rachel Donaire: The thing is that we needed to take chances. It was hard to get fights. At least, A-level fights with Manny Pacquiao making these huge dollar sign amounts.

I think whenever we had to discuss Nonito's fights, you know, it was kind of on the back burner for Nonito, like, whatever is left on the bone, that's what you have. But that's the energy they seemed to spend on him. But it wasn't like a really big priority for them to set Nonito up with really big fights.

I understand that Manny was fighting Oscar De La Hoya, and Juan Manuel Marquez, and super big, just enormous names. But at the same time, the reason why Nonito signed with Top Rank is that they had Manny.

And Top Rank was the one that really wanted Nonito. Coming from Gary Shaw, they really wanted Nonito. And they were like, 'What can we do to get him here?' We figured that because Bob Arum kept marketing him as the next Manny Pacquiao, that they would market him with Manny, you know what I mean?

But a simple thing like being on the same show on the undercard was not something that was done in the last three years. We didn't think that was that big of a thing to do.

That would have helped with the fan followings if Nonito had been on the same HBO cards as Manny. But, I mean, everything happens for a reason. And I think that Nonito needs to tell people, and to make it on his own. Even back here in the Philippines, they refer to Manny all of the time.

Now, Nonito is never going to be Manny, but Manny's also never going to be Nonito. That's just how it has to be. They grew up in different places and they can be respected as two different fighters.

This post has been edited by Byrd Man: Mar 17 2011, 04:21 AM