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[Michigan Assassi...]

I'm sure a huge signing bonus is involved but other than that I don't understand this move by Donaire.

After Mares (if he wins the Showtime tourney) what other big fights can Golden Boy offer?

Not to mention the lawsuit that Arum is going to bring, which may very well keep ND on the shelf for a bit. Makes very little sense with all the momentum he's recently gained.

[Guest_Fitz_*]

I guess this means Donaire plans to stay at bantam for a while, cause Arum was not trying to hear about him fighting anyone from the Showtime tournament. He was all about 122, 126...

Exactly.

Yeah but Fitz do you think Golden Boy are going to do it any differently?

I don't know. At least with this, I have hope. Arum already scoffed at the suggestions that Donaire could fight one of the other champions at bantam. Like they were not worth it and he beats them on paper, so there isn't much point. He was already talking about a fight with Lopez or Gamboa. While minutes ago, Donaire was saying it was always his dream to become undisputed in a division and would love to fight the winner.
So to answer you question. I don't know if it will be done differently, but I hate Arum anyways, so I'm happy about that and there is hope at least. I suppose if Donaire's next fight is against one of the other bantams, I can say that Golden Boy have done it differently.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Exactly.



I don't know. At least with this, I have hope. Arum already scoffed at the suggestions that Donaire could fight one of the other champions at bantam. Like they were not worth it and he beats them on paper, so there isn't much point. He was already talking about a fight with Lopez or Gamboa. While minutes ago, Donaire was saying it was always his dream to become undisputed in a division and would love to fight the winner.
So to answer you question. I don't know if it will be done differently, but I hate Arum anyways, so I'm happy about that and there is hope at least. I suppose if Donaire's next fight is against one of the other bantams, I can say that Golden Boy have done it differently.

Given the chance Golden Boy will prove themselves to be bigger snakes than either Arum or King. Given their reasonably short history they've already indulged in some shady stuff like skimming the undercard fighters on the Khan/Malignaggi bill.

As for putting on good fights, these are the guys that deemed Mosley/Mora PPV worthy. That's gotta be the worst of the lot and were then prepared to fuck one of their own partners (Mosley) in his attempt to get a Pacquaio fight.

Just watch, they will fuck up Donaire's career just like they'll screw up Alvarez's. People are rejoicing now, and I understand why, Arum has gone out of his way to irritate hardcore fans for the last coupla years, but trust me long term this will not be a good move fo Donaire.

I really like Donaire, he is a class act and a monster in the ring and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure this move is for the best.

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Given the chance Golden Boy will prove themselves to be bigger snakes than either Arum or King. Given their reasonably short history they've already indulged in some shady stuff like skimming the undercard fighters on the Khan/Malignaggi bill.

As for putting on good fights, these are the guys that deemed Mosley/Mora PPV worthy. That's gotta be the worst of the lot and were then prepared to fuck one of their own partners (Mosley) in his attempt to get a Pacquaio fight.

Just watch, they will fuck up Donaire's career just like they'll screw up Alvarez's. People are rejoicing now, and I understand why, Arum has gone out of his way to irritate hardcore fans for the last coupla years, but trust me long term this will not be a good move fo Donaire.

I really like Donaire, he is a class act and a monster in the ring and I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure this move is for the best.

that's about like trying to decide what shit smells the worst, all of the promoters making any money are completely full of shit and only care about themselves. as for the choice of PPVs i'd say it's the same situation, all the major promoters, at this point GBP and TR, put out shitty PPVs for no other reason than they make more money than having it on HBO or Showtime for free.

personally i think GBP wil most definitely put him in the mix at bantamweight without messing around and they already have Mares so if things go well for him that's a potential opponent. Arum has also seemed to in my opinion neglect his other fighters if they're not Pac/can't fight Pac so maybe GBP will give him more attention and try to cash in on him sooner rather than later.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

that's about like trying to decide what shit smells the worst, all of the promoters making any money are completely full of shit and only care about themselves. as for the choice of PPVs i'd say it's the same situation, all the major promoters, at this point GBP and TR, put out shitty PPVs for no other reason than they make more money than having it on HBO or Showtime for free.

personally i think GBP wil most definitely put him in the mix at bantamweight without messing around and they already have Mares so if things go well for him that's a potential opponent. Arum has also seemed to in my opinion neglect his other fighters if they're not Pac/can't fight Pac so maybe GBP will give him more attention and try to cash in on him sooner rather than later.

I've yet to see any proof that Golden Shower Promotions know how to properly build up a fighter. I've seen them destroy a couple. I guess this will be a prime opportunity for the Swiss banker to prove me wrong.

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I've yet to see any proof that Golden Shower Promotions know how to properly build up a fighter. I've seen them destroy a couple. I guess this will be a prime opportunity for the Swiss banker to prove me wrong.

does Kelly Pavlik ring a bell? lol. all promoters fuck up and fuck around, i expect that. i don't think going to GBP is a disaster though, if anything it shows me Donaire is a respectable guy that feels looked over and doesn't want to ride bitch in his career. he could have easily stayed with Arum and hoped for the best despite feeling that his best effort hasn't been put into Donaire's career, i'm sure Arum could easily say "look at Pac, is that where you want to be when he retires?". instead of doing that he's trying to get the bigger fights and have someone as a promoter that will help him secure them.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

does Kelly Pavlik ring a bell? lol. all promoters fuck up and fuck around, i expect that. i don't think going to GBP is a disaster though, if anything it shows me Donaire is a respectable guy that feels looked over and doesn't want to ride bitch in his career. he could have easily stayed with Arum and hoped for the best despite feeling that his best effort hasn't been put into Donaire's career, i'm sure Arum could easily say "look at Pac, is that where you want to be when he retires?". instead of doing that he's trying to get the bigger fights and have someone as a promoter that will help him secure them.

Yep Kelly Pavlik rings a bell alright. How Arum was ale to squeeze those many big money fights out of a guy who was frankly an average talent (and as we now know an alcoholic as well) was pretty damn impressive.

Nice going Bob, LOL.

Look I think Donaire is a respectable guy as well. I like him a lot. I hope this move is successful for him. And yes all promotors are pretty much snakes in the grass. I'm just not sure he's jumped to the best snake. I think I'd go to Lou Dibella over these guys.

Yes they will have an immediate decent fight waiting for him, but what then? Golden Boy seems to run out of ideas pretty quick and they lack the creativity of the old school guys.

I hope Donaire at least got a whopping sign-on bonuss. Maybe Oscar still has that old duffel bag lying around he once tried to give Manny, haha.