Mar 16 2011, 05:04 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 538 Joined: 11-December 04 Member No.: 1,341 |
I'm sure a huge signing bonus is involved but other than that I don't understand this move by Donaire.
After Mares (if he wins the Showtime tourney) what other big fights can Golden Boy offer? Not to mention the lawsuit that Arum is going to bring, which may very well keep ND on the shelf for a bit. Makes very little sense with all the momentum he's recently gained. |
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Mar 18 2011, 07:41 AM
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People forget that Golden Boy hasn't been around for that long, they've been around for barely under a decade and even though they haven't developed a brand new talent from scratch, they've recruited A LOT of big names, many of whom continue to stay with the brand.
Honestly, it's about looking at what Donaire has done with Arum to understand why the move was made. Nonito was promised a 3 fight/year contract and in 2008 he had one defence, 2 fights in 2009 and 2010 was the first year Arum lived up to the contractual promises. Also, look at the quality of opponents Arum has been putting him in with: for example, last february he fought at 115 against Manuel Vargas, a dude who fought his 5 previous fights at STRAWWEIGHT. Then he fought Hernan Marquez in his next fight, a dude coming off a loss to a mediocre filipino prospect on the Pac-Clottey card. He's fought alot of guys below his level and it can't be any worse than what GBP will be offering him. Thing with Golden Boy is GBP racks up probably the most boxing televised coverage in America compared to all the other promotional companies. HBO, HBO Latino, Showtime, Telefutura, and ESPN all air GBP shows on the regular and there's a certainty that Donaire will be getting fights on HBO and Showtime on the regular, something i felt GBP could've guaranteed before isntead of Arum putting him on these shitty ass Pinoy Power and Latin Fury TopRank-PPV cards--how the fuck is a young prospect going to gain exposure on these cards that probably only rack up 60-80K buys on a good day??? This post has been edited by mexi-cutioner: Mar 18 2011, 07:45 AM |
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Mar 18 2011, 08:01 AM
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People forget that Golden Boy hasn't been around for that long, they've been around for barely under a decade and even though they haven't developed a brand new talent from scratch, they've recruited A LOT of big names, many of whom continue to stay with the brand. Honestly, it's about looking at what Donaire has done with Arum to understand why the move was made. Nonito was promised a 3 fight/year contract and in 2008 he had one defence, 2 fights in 2009 and 2010 was the first year Arum lived up to the contractual promises. Also, look at the quality of opponents Arum has been putting him in with: for example, last february he fought at 115 against Manuel Vargas, a dude who fought his 5 previous fights at STRAWWEIGHT. Then he fought Hernan Marquez in his next fight, a dude coming off a loss to a mediocre filipino prospect on the Pac-Clottey card. He's fought alot of guys below his level and it can't be any worse than what GBP will be offering him. Thing with Golden Boy is GBP racks up probably the most boxing televised coverage in America compared to all the other promotional companies. HBO, HBO Latino, Showtime, Telefutura, and ESPN all air GBP shows on the regular and there's a certainty that Donaire will be getting fights on HBO and Showtime on the regular, something i felt GBP could've guaranteed before isntead of Arum putting him on these shitty ass Pinoy Power and Latin Fury TopRank-PPV cards--how the fuck is a young prospect going to gain exposure on these cards that probably only rack up 60-80K buys on a good day??? If Mayweather isn't fighting under the Golden Boy banner whom do you think in the GBP stable is likely to notch up 250k PPV figures? As to continuing to fight under their brand, wasn't Barerra supposed to be a partner? What about Mosley? Hopkins was 10 seconds away from jumping ship at one point and you can bet JMM will be counting the days until he is a free agent. The only reason Golden Shower have such regular dates with HBO is due to Oscar's relationship with them. GBP has coasted on the basis of this relationship since its inception and really hasn't done sweet FA to shake up the promotional landscape. Even 24/7 was Floyd's idea!! And outside of PBF fights this cosy relationship hasn't done much for HBO. They've backed the wrong horse and I think opened up a gap for Showtime, lets see if they can make something of it. Golden Boy=Lame. |
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Mar 18 2011, 09:30 AM
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Cruiserweight Group: Team BU Posts: 5,543 Joined: 10-December 04 Member No.: 1,333 |
If Mayweather isn't fighting under the Golden Boy banner whom do you think in the GBP stable is likely to notch up 250k PPV figures? As to continuing to fight under their brand, wasn't Barerra supposed to be a partner? What about Mosley? Hopkins was 10 seconds away from jumping ship at one point and you can bet JMM will be counting the days until he is a free agent. The only reason Golden Shower have such regular dates with HBO is due to Oscar's relationship with them. GBP has coasted on the basis of this relationship since its inception and really hasn't done sweet FA to shake up the promotional landscape. Even 24/7 was Floyd's idea!! And outside of PBF fights this cosy relationship hasn't done much for HBO. They've backed the wrong horse and I think opened up a gap for Showtime, lets see if they can make something of it. Golden Boy=Lame. Exactly. Plus it seems as if they are about to throw Victor Ortiz in with the wolves against Berto. |
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