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SmartyBeardo
post Jun 24 2011, 08:20 AM
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Let's make it your ATG and current top five lists?
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post Jun 25 2011, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jun 25 2011, 01:26 AM) *
I go back to the mid to late 80's so I can not possibly state any of those old school fighters. But I will just name some of the top defensive guys I remember off the top of my head(in their primes).

Toney is easily number 1 in my book.

Whitaker would be number 2.

Mayweather would be 3.

Roy Jones 4.

Michael Nunn 5.


Oh... the last thing I think of is defense when I think of Zab Judah.


QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 25 2011, 01:59 AM) *
C'mon Lil-lightsout, Zab Judah has superb defense. He has it for 20 seconds of each round up to round #6.

Finally. It took some pages but the blackhead I planted in the beginning is coming to the surface.

Zab's resurgence is nearly exclusively due to his improved defense under the tutelage of Sweet Pea. Without that massively improved defense he would not have made it to the final bell to have the opportunity to be awarded the decision v Matthysse. Judah showed maturity when he took a knee when he got caught by the Argentinian. A younger Zab would have tried to stay up and would have been KOed.

In his last fight he demonstrated the ability to stay in rounds without mounting an offense to speak of. Then after frustrating his opponent for several rounds he came alive and KOed him with little to no risk.

Amere Con has not been in the rings with the likes of this version of Zab, but Judah has been in the ring with several fighters equal to or above Amere's level. Zab Judah will defeat Amere Con with defense first and a lethal offensive attack second. He has had that much more time under the wing of one of the defensive genius's of the modern era . . . and he hasn't lost his one punch power.
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- SmartyBeardo   Who are your top 5 defensive fighters of all time?   Jun 24 2011, 08:20 AM
- - Spyder   Willie Pep Pernell Whitaker SRR Benny Leonard Arch...   Jun 24 2011, 08:43 AM
|- - riddick   Mayweather Whitaker Hopkins Toney Wright   Jun 24 2011, 09:19 AM
|- - TheFonz   QUOTE (Spyder @ Jun 24 2011, 09:43 AM) Wi...   Jun 24 2011, 10:08 AM
|- - Spyder   QUOTE (TheFonz @ Jun 24 2011, 11:08 AM) S...   Jun 24 2011, 11:07 AM
- - Box in Hand   1. Pernell Whitaker 2. Floyd Mayweather 3. Willie ...   Jun 24 2011, 09:34 AM
|- - BoxingWizard23   QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jun 24 2011, 10:34 A...   Jun 24 2011, 10:15 PM
- - neophyte7   ALL TIME Willie Pepp Benitez Jack Johnson Pernell ...   Jun 24 2011, 09:49 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Jun 24 2011, 10:51 ...   Jun 24 2011, 09:54 AM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (Spyder @ Jun 25 2011, 06:50 AM) He...   Jun 24 2011, 08:09 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Fitz @ Jun 24 2011, 06:09 PM) Exac...   Jun 24 2011, 08:18 PM
- - Fitz   Haha. I'm such an idiot. I read what he was sa...   Jun 24 2011, 08:30 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Fitz @ Jun 24 2011, 06:30 PM) Haha...   Jun 24 2011, 08:32 PM
- - ChadSaysTakeTheTest   Floyd has to be a top 5 all time greatest def. Has...   Jun 24 2011, 08:55 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (ChadSaysTakeTheTest @ Jun 24 2011, 06...   Jun 24 2011, 09:00 PM
- - AussieLad   Gatti, Micky Ward, Katsidis   Jun 24 2011, 09:04 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jun 24 2011, 07:04 PM)...   Jun 24 2011, 09:11 PM
- - caneman   I'll give my list in the morning even though I...   Jun 24 2011, 09:20 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (caneman @ Jun 24 2011, 07:20 PM) I...   Jun 24 2011, 09:37 PM
- - Hops   My top 5. ATG and CURRENT merged. 1. Floyd Maywea...   Jun 24 2011, 10:25 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 08:25 PM) My t...   Jun 25 2011, 12:43 AM
- - Hops   Sorry. So here's mine. 1.Arturo Gatti 2.Fredd...   Jun 25 2011, 12:54 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 10:54 PM) Sorr...   Jun 25 2011, 12:57 AM
- - Hops   Best defensive or most defensive fighters? I'v...   Jun 25 2011, 01:07 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 11:07 PM) Best...   Jun 25 2011, 01:09 AM
- - ChadSaysTakeTheTest   All time Floyd Pep Whitaker Ali(step-back knockout...   Jun 25 2011, 01:21 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (ChadSaysTakeTheTest @ Jun 24 2011, 11...   Jun 25 2011, 01:23 AM
|- - ChadSaysTakeTheTest   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Jun 24 2011, 11:23 ...   Jun 25 2011, 01:29 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (ChadSaysTakeTheTest @ Jun 24 2011, 11...   Jun 25 2011, 01:33 AM
|- - ChadSaysTakeTheTest   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Jun 24 2011, 11:33 ...   Jun 25 2011, 01:44 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (ChadSaysTakeTheTest @ Jun 24 2011, 11...   Jun 25 2011, 01:49 AM
- - Hops   Okay. I have: All Time Roy - couldn't get hi...   Jun 25 2011, 01:41 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 11:41 PM) Okay...   Jun 25 2011, 01:44 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jun 24 2011, 03:08 P...   Jun 25 2011, 01:56 AM
- - Hops   This topic is complex. Who is skillfully more defe...   Jun 25 2011, 02:04 AM
- - ChadSaysTakeTheTest   Hell yea hearns was a bad mofo but rumors he had a...   Jun 25 2011, 02:07 AM
- - neophyte7   This topic is complex. Who is skillfully more defe...   Jun 25 2011, 02:44 AM
- - Lil-lightsout   I go back to the mid to late 80's so I can not...   Jun 25 2011, 03:26 AM
- - Hops   C'mon Lil-lightsout, Zab Judah has superb defe...   Jun 25 2011, 03:59 AM
- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jun 25 2011, 01...   Jun 25 2011, 09:19 AM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Jun 25 2011, 10:19 ...   Jun 25 2011, 09:26 AM
- - Prov0   ATG 1.Floyd Mayweather Jr 2.Pernell Whitaker 3.Wil...   Jun 25 2011, 01:04 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Prov0 @ Jun 25 2011, 11:04 AM) ATG...   Jun 25 2011, 01:11 PM
- - JONdaCON817   better late then never... Sweat Pea (personal Fav...   Jun 25 2011, 08:04 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Jun 25 2011, 06:04 P...   Jun 25 2011, 08:08 PM
|- - JONdaCON817   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Jun 25 2011, 08:08 ...   Jun 26 2011, 06:58 PM
- - iKeNjiro   This is just my complete list no order...I did how...   Jun 26 2011, 08:04 AM
|- - JONdaCON817   QUOTE (iKeNjiro @ Jun 26 2011, 08:04 AM) ...   Jun 26 2011, 07:00 PM
- - scallum   Pernell- Benitez-Pbf- PeP- Toney   Jun 28 2011, 02:27 PM
- - kidbazooka1   Whitaker Mayweather Are the best ever IMO as for ...   Jun 28 2011, 07:35 PM
- - and the NEW   LOL, I can't believe some of you bought into t...   Jul 25 2011, 07:17 PM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (and the NEW @ Jul 25 2011, 05:17 P...   Jul 25 2011, 10:19 PM
- - and the NEW   Yeh, sorry Beardo, the list is in no particular or...   Jul 25 2011, 11:12 PM
- - blackbelt2003   Woah, I'm surprised (but then not really) at t...   Jul 26 2011, 03:11 AM
- - gravytrain   good call on Robinson, Black. i think his defense ...   Jul 26 2011, 03:25 PM
- - and the NEW   I'm still not sold on Robinson as one of the b...   Jul 26 2011, 06:58 PM


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