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[SmartyBeardo]

Let's make it your ATG and current top five lists?

[and the NEW]

LOL, I can't believe some of you bought into the Judah hype of the 'reformed' man. He was and always will be, soft. His defensive is terrible, that jab is sloppy as hell. He relies on good reflexes but nothing else is great.

Best defensive I have seen (there are many different types):

Floyd Mayweather Jr (here is a guy who can use his defence in the pocket and actually use it to absorb energy and then counter like nobody I have ever seen before).

James Toney (much like Floyd as far as absorbing the energy and then re-directing it). Unfortunately, the guy couldn't go on the front foot in the same manner as Floyd.

Locche (need I say more, couldn't break an egg but he would just make fools of his opposition).

Roy Jones Jr (perhaps the most athletic man that has ever graced the planet, without the best technique, he got away with just about anything due to his superior athletacism and barely had to take a punch over a good decade period).

BHOP (I never liked this guy and never will, but even I have been humbled at just how this guy does it. The master of snooze but he always manages to lul his opponents to sleep. Probably the most cagey fighter I have ever seen).

Willie Pep (need I say more).

Pernell Whitaker (both defensive wizard and cagey).

Fukced if I can tell what Jack Johnson is doing in there from that old footage but I will take the old timers word for his prowess.

Joe Gans + Benny Leonard.

This post has been edited by and the NEW: Jul 25 2011, 11:13 PM