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> Who are your top 5 defensive fighters of all time?, There are no wrong answers.
SmartyBeardo
post Jun 24 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jun 24 2011, 07:04 PM) *
Gatti, Micky Ward, Katsidis

No shit, DownUnderling! I forgot about George Chuvalo, Henry Cooper, Boom Boom Mancini, Danny Little Red Lopez . . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aggressive.gif)
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caneman
post Jun 24 2011, 09:20 PM
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I'll give my list in the morning even though I already know! But I have to ask Beardo, while Monzon was great how can he be tops with 9 draws back then?

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post Jun 24 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (caneman @ Jun 24 2011, 07:20 PM) *
I'll give my list in the morning even though I already know! But I have to ask Beardo, while Monzon was great how can he be tops with 9 draws back then?

Similar answer as Loche. Monzons draws (like his losses) were early in his career. While I have not seen those fights, I have to assume he got the draws with his D, given how he developed defensively. The footage that I have been able to dig up on Monzon is impressive overall but especially defensively. He was similar to Holmes and FMJ in his ability to recover from being hurt. His movement (especially headwise) reminded me of Ali. Seldom did anyone land flush even when the punches appeared to land. He slipped them and had that uncanny ability to move with them. Of course his chin was impressive also.
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post Jun 24 2011, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Jun 24 2011, 10:34 AM) *
1. Pernell Whitaker
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Willie Pep
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. James Toney

good list
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post Jun 24 2011, 10:25 PM
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My top 5. ATG and CURRENT merged.

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Floyd Mayweather
5. Floyd Mayweather

Any other list is dead wrong.
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SmartyBeardo
post Jun 25 2011, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 08:25 PM) *
My top 5. ATG and CURRENT merged.

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Floyd Mayweather
5. Floyd Mayweather

Any other list is dead wrong.

Hops, dig deep and come up with your own list . . . or stay the fuck outta my thread.
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Hops
post Jun 25 2011, 12:54 AM
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Sorry. So here's mine.

1.Arturo Gatti
2.Freddie Roach
3.Tex Cobb
4.Jake Lamotta
5.Gene Fullmer
6.Ad Wolfgast
7.Carmen Basillio
8.Battling Nelson
9.Harry Greb
10.Butterbean
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post Jun 25 2011, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 10:54 PM) *
Sorry. So here's mine.

1.Arturo Gatti
2.Freddie Roach
3.Tex Cobb
4.Jake Lamotta
5.Gene Fullmer
6.Ad Wolfgast
7.Carmen Basillio
8.Battling Nelson
9.Harry Greb
10.Butterbean

At least that is an attempt at humor, but DownUnderling beat you to it. BTW, it is supposed to be the top 5 best defensive fighters.
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Hops
post Jun 25 2011, 01:07 AM
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Best defensive or most defensive fighters? I've seen fighters with great defense if they wanted to use it. Most of the time, they didn't. Are they excluded from the list?

I've seen Ali sticking his face out and the opponent couldn't even hit it once in 10 shots.
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SmartyBeardo
post Jun 25 2011, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (Hops @ Jun 24 2011, 11:07 PM) *
Best defensive or most defensive fighters? I've seen fighters with great defense if they wanted to use it. Most of the time, they didn't. Are they excluded from the list?

I've seen Ali sticking his face out and the opponent couldn't even hit it once in 10 shots.

Best Hops. Best ATG defensive and best active defensive fighters.
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