[Maxy]

I'm a cunt cos I thought Haye would land some leather and give it a right ol' go but I shoulda just figured a fella with braids on his bonce wouldn't be man enough to throw caution to the wind. He's being ridiculed by the English media for the little toe excuse. Has anyone ever heard anything quite like it? Watching the fight I was off my trolley and I thought it was a decent clash but obviously I was in my own bloody world cos having since rewatched it I see it was a load of bollocks basically.

This post has been edited by Maxy: Jul 3 2011, 03:14 AM

[ROLL DEEP]

Ok, obviously I'm dissapointed that Haye, not only lost, but didn't fight no where near as aggressive he promised. Anyhow, here are a few quick points;


1. What a show! I don't mean the actual fights, but the laser lights, special effects, Tyson talking at the beginning, the news articles - great show. Really got everyone pumped up....nice work, Germany!


2. Haye showed us some lovely defence.....but no counters or intelligent attacking. Well, you could see what he was trying to achieve (the right hand over the top), but throwing it that wild and that often?! To stand on the ropes with your hands down by your side is a death defying act against a Klit.


3. Haye's jab was catching Wladimir. The sheer speed of David's jab meant he beat Wlad to the jab on more than a few occasions. how come he didn't use it more often?


4. Fighting the Klit's is harder than it seems....Wlad never changes his style and his opponents always look the same. Can't get past the jab, can't get in close and when they taste the leather, they are more reluctant to attack. With all the best laid plans and talk of 'xxx should just do this, or xxx should just do that, I think once you're in the ring with Wlad, it's a totally different game. They're that good at what they do.


5. What did we really expect from Haye? I think we all got caught up in the hype and were HOPING Haye would deliver. He is fast and does have some skill, but against a brilliant, seasoned pro like Wladimir?


6. I think Haye will get some stick here in the UK. Over here we love to bash up our losers, so no doubt there will be an onslaught of 'Haye is crap', 'Haye is a clown' and other such talk.

[STEVENSKI]

6. I think Haye will get some stick here in the UK. Over here we love to bash up our losers, so no doubt there will be an onslaught of 'Haye is crap', 'Haye is a clown' and other such talk.

He will deserve everything he gets & then some. What is most galling is that Cockney men are masculine/macho (or like to think they are til they meet a real hard geordie or taff anyways) & Haye looked fresh as a daisy at the end. This shows he most certainly did not give his all & was there to collect his payday.

He is a disgrace to boxing & a disgrace to England. What a cunt & hopefully some thug shanks him as he is walking the streets for bringing shame to England. At least your other top fighters when they have lost on th einternational stage gave 100%. Haye gave 10% at best.

[salvador]

I really don't get all of the ripping on Haye talk. I mean....REALLY....what did you expect?

When someone talks the way Haye did for 3 years I expect him to go for broke in the last few rounds and risk going out on his shield rather than lose a wide decision on his feet. I especially expect it when his mouth convinced 20,000 Brits to fly to Hamburg to see the fight.

And the thing is, the fight went exactly how I expected it to, with Klit controlling the fight and Haye deciding to finish on his feet - which is fine because we now know for sure what a complete FRAUD Haye is.

There's no shame in getting ko'd. But there is huge shame in lying to the public and then choosing to go down like a banker rather than a warrior.

[HazConvictedFelo...]

I think ide rather America not have any HW then have Craig David pretending to be one... lol

Oh Shit! Craig David was that R&B dude. That's funny. Heavyweights are screwing the pooch these days. If that was the most that we can get out of the division, then I think we should get rid of the heavyweight division altogether. I heard David Haye say that Wlad's fights were a cure for insomnia. Well I wonder how he feels about adding to that statement personally. When he watches the tape, I'm sure he'll be excited over some of those clean right hands he landed on Wlad.

[FightHypeRules]

This is why the Klitschkos are seen as boring because nobody since the days of Brewster I and Sanders for Wlad and Lewis for Vitali has come forward and showed aggression. I mean not to do that is so fucking stupid IMO. I mean maybe the division is so shit that they don't know how to be aggressive. But shit, people pay good money and we get W. 12. W.12 W.12, KO 11 against a nobody.

Actually Wlad hasn't had a decision win since Sultan Ibragimov in February of 2008. He's won all the others by stoppages.

And Vitali has had 8 stoppages and two decision wins since his loss to Lennox Lewis.

So not sure what you meant by that.

This post has been edited by FightHypeRules: Jul 3 2011, 08:34 AM

[SENTRAL]

I think its the slow and methodical manner by which he attains his stoppage victories which gripes with the fans. He doesn't show the explosiveness to counter for being kill of the hill as a non American so he'll never be taken to heart.

[gravytrain]

I'm a cunt cos I thought Haye would land some leather and give it a right ol' go but I shoulda just figured a fella with braids on his bonce wouldn't be man enough to throw caution to the wind. He's being ridiculed by the English media for the little toe excuse. Has anyone ever heard anything quite like it? Watching the fight I was off my trolley and I thought it was a decent clash but obviously I was in my own bloody world cos having since rewatched it I see it was a load of bollocks basically.

for me it's kind of like when Naazim Richardson said "we're giving the blueprint to beat him" when Mosley fought Pac. if Haye really boxed him and didn't just look for a lead right hand i truly believe he would have Wlad's belts. his defense and power made Wlad look unsure of himself and if Haye was setting up shots with the jab i think he would have won close rounds. unfortunately for Haye that's just his approach to fights so i don't think he could change himself up that much just with 1 camp.

Ok, obviously I'm dissapointed that Haye, not only lost, but didn't fight no where near as aggressive he promised. Anyhow, here are a few quick points;


1. What a show! I don't mean the actual fights, but the laser lights, special effects, Tyson talking at the beginning, the news articles - great show. Really got everyone pumped up....nice work, Germany!

in one thread i talked about that, they really can put on a show. they put on a classy show over there and other promoters should take notes.

I think its the slow and methodical manner by which he attains his stoppage victories which gripes with the fans. He doesn't show the explosiveness to counter for being kill of the hill as a non American so he'll never be taken to heart.

i think it's too hard to sell someone like him. verbally he can't sell a fight at all and in the ring it's not very appealing to many audiences. some people on here say he's smart for not straying from his style because he's protecting his health but i can't agree with that, he's just content to win. he's what he's and he's someone that learned to fight in a sports school and has a very eastern European style of looking to win with no flashy flash and a win is a win for him.

[The Original MrF...]

I had it 114 -112. 7 rounds to 5, in favor of Wlad. I think David Haye landed the bigger shots throughout the fight. Wlad landed his jab, which carried him through most close rounds. I didnt see it as the colossal blowout that the judges scored it as. It was a good competitive fight. Wlad was actually challenged. I think Haye hurt him on a few occassions and he recovered well. Haye's problem appeared to be that he could not reach Wlad with many of his shots. It may have been due to his toe and being able to plant and extend. It was swollen and looked ugly. If I was Haye, I wouldnt have run that toe BS after the fight. He fought, so it was fair. No excuses. He just didnt do enough in most rounds. When he did, it won him the round.

[D-MARV]

Watched again this morning (I don't know how I made it through it again) and gave Haye 4 rounds. I was being extremely nice!

I don't know about the german broadcast but HBO was really dick riding Klit! He didn't do shit either... There were times where he had Haye backed against the corner and he just sat there. Klit was just as scared as Haye was.... He just hid behind his size advantage rather his legs! Fuck this fight and Fuck both fighters... At least guys like Arreola would have gone all out!