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BoxingStill#1
post Jul 4 2011, 05:00 PM
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Both comming off notable losses..

One of which in dominant fasion...

Does Mosely have what it takes to compete?

Does Mosely deserve a this fight?

Does Berto?

MORE importantly,... would we even tune in to watch it?...




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post Jul 5 2011, 02:07 PM
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Berto has limited opposition in his career due to his size (height and ARM LENGTH) and fighting stlye, and also the fact that he's been fighting tomato cans his whole career has hurt him tremendously. The Collazo fight nearly put him on blast, and the Ortiz fight earned him a spot on the back burner. He appears a bit short for Welterweight, and his arm length/reach is nothing to talk about. We all saw how much he had to bounce and lunge to land a decent punch against Ortiz, but how much will he be able to do that with a quality opponent if his legs are shot after a bug punch?

Now this guy doesn't have the choice of a tune-up bout to be recognized again, because he's been fighting "tune-up bout fighters" his whole career, get it? He has to come back with twice the heart and enhanced skills, and not to mention, he has to take on nothing less than quality opponents from now on. Mosley is not an opponent that anybody should fight as a stepping stone or a retirement bout at this point, because he is done. I wouldn't even watch him fight on Friday Night Fights, let alone select him as a fighter on a boxing video game.

I have said this once before and I will stand on it, Berto and/or Ortiz should fight Joshua Clottey at Welterweight. This wouldn't be a bad fight at all for Berto, because Clottey is still a threat (regardless of his last fight with Pac). Just look at his fights before that with Judah and Cotto, I would watch Berto vs Clottey with no complaints. It would have to be knock down drag out like his fight with Ortiz, in order to prove that Clottey is still that much of a threat and that Berto can deal with adversity and pull off the win. Just my opinion...

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post Jul 5 2011, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 03:07 PM) *
Berto has limited opposition in his career due to his size (height and ARM LENGTH) and fighting stlye, and also the fact that he's been fighting tomato cans his whole career has hurt him tremendously.


That's reaching. Didn't hurt Mike Tyson.
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post Jul 5 2011, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 08:52 PM) *
That's reaching. Didn't hurt Mike Tyson.


Thats because tyson was blazing fast and with TNT in his gloves. You cant compare Berto to a rare physical specimen like tyson
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post Jul 5 2011, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jul 5 2011, 06:46 PM) *
Thats because tyson was blazing fast and with TNT in his gloves. You cant compare Berto to a rare physical specimen like tyson


You are missing the point. He gave a lame ass excuse about Berto's arm length and height being the reason for him fighting limited opposition and blah blah blah.

My Tyson example was just a quick example how someones arm length and height is pure BS. At most if not all weight classes there are so many examples of guys who have way different physical specs. It is not like Berto is 5' 1" or something like that, his arms and height are fine to compete at welterweight. There are far more accurate reasons for his welterweight woes than blaming it on his arms and height.

I can not believe I have to explain myself.
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- BoxingStill#1   BERTO MOSELY?   Jul 4 2011, 05:00 PM
- - Hops   Stinker. Fighters ruin the sports. Not the promot...   Jul 4 2011, 05:48 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 4 2011, 06:17 PM) Yeah ...   Jul 4 2011, 05:52 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Fitz @ Jul 4 2011, 05:58 PM) I don...   Jul 4 2011, 06:09 PM
- - Romulus9   I don't know about everyone else but I happen ...   Jul 4 2011, 06:22 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Haha... Yeah don't get me wrong here..... I d...   Jul 4 2011, 06:22 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Jul 4 2011, 06:22 ...   Jul 4 2011, 06:38 PM
- - JONdaCON817   Ide watch Berto-Mosley... but i wouldnt expect any...   Jul 4 2011, 06:41 PM
- - caneman   But Berto could fight Jan Zaveck, Vyacheslav Sench...   Jul 4 2011, 07:10 PM
- - gravytrain   i would like to see Mosley tee off on Berto like h...   Jul 4 2011, 07:14 PM
|- - Romulus9   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 4 2011, 08:14 PM)...   Jul 4 2011, 07:24 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 4 2011, 08:24 PM) I...   Jul 4 2011, 07:39 PM
|- - The Original MrFactor   QUOTE (Romulus9 @ Jul 4 2011, 08:24 PM) I...   Jul 5 2011, 09:44 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 4 2011, 07:39 PM)...   Jul 4 2011, 07:42 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (caneman @ Jul 4 2011, 08:42 PM) Th...   Jul 5 2011, 06:37 AM
- - BoxingStill#1   So the general census agrees..... no more mosely?....   Jul 4 2011, 09:11 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   BTW im mad I've been spelling Shane MOSLEY...   Jul 4 2011, 09:41 PM
- - Lil-lightsout   I have been Mosley's biggest supporter on this...   Jul 5 2011, 12:47 AM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 01...   Jul 5 2011, 01:31 AM
|- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Jul 5 2011, ...   Jul 5 2011, 02:14 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 5 2011, 06:37 AM)...   Jul 5 2011, 07:52 AM
- - gravytrain   lol Caneman. i don't know if Toney would eat h...   Jul 5 2011, 08:35 AM
|- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 5 2011, 09:35 AM)...   Jul 5 2011, 08:51 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Jul 5 2011, 08:35 AM)...   Jul 5 2011, 08:56 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:51 ...   Jul 5 2011, 09:37 AM
- - HaydelHammer   I don't care to see shane fight ever again. He...   Jul 5 2011, 09:23 AM
- - The Original MrFactor   I'd like to see Mosley/Berto. Both guys are co...   Jul 5 2011, 09:40 AM
- - neophyte7   Mosley belongs on Friday Night Fights en route to ...   Jul 5 2011, 11:24 AM
|- - PColeman28   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:24 AM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 12:04 PM
- - cshel86   Berto has limited opposition in his career due to ...   Jul 5 2011, 02:07 PM
|- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 03:07 PM) Be...   Jul 5 2011, 02:52 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 03...   Jul 5 2011, 03:14 PM
|- - AussieLad   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 08...   Jul 5 2011, 05:46 PM
|- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jul 5 2011, 06:46 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 10:14 PM
- - cshel86   Exactly! Tyson was in a league of his own...   Jul 5 2011, 06:47 PM
|- - PColeman28   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 04:47 PM) Ex...   Jul 5 2011, 07:41 PM
|- - AussieLad   QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Jul 6 2011, 01:41 AM)...   Jul 5 2011, 07:53 PM
||- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jul 5 2011, 08:53 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 10:20 PM
||- - cshel86   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 11...   Jul 5 2011, 10:36 PM
|||- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 11:36 PM) .....   Jul 5 2011, 10:53 PM
|||- - cshel86   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 11...   Jul 6 2011, 07:43 AM
|||- - Lil-lightsout   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 6 2011, 08:43 AM) .....   Jul 6 2011, 11:36 AM
||- - AussieLad   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 6 2011, 03...   Jul 6 2011, 02:51 AM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Jul 5 2011, 08:41 PM)...   Jul 5 2011, 10:06 PM
- - neophyte7   BERTO was inactive.. he aint mayweather... only r...   Jul 5 2011, 09:57 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 5 2011, 10:57 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 10:02 PM
- - neophyte7   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 10:02 PM) Be...   Jul 5 2011, 10:10 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Jul 5 2011, 11:10 PM) ...   Jul 5 2011, 10:13 PM
- - lloyd mayflower   Ricky Hatton had short arms and limited skills.   Jul 5 2011, 11:32 PM
- - Lil-lightsout   Here are some past and present welterweight champs...   Jul 5 2011, 11:39 PM
|- - PColeman28   QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 5 2011, 09...   Jul 6 2011, 12:54 PM
- - BoxingWizard23   Mosley vs Berto is a action packed fight but then ...   Jul 6 2011, 03:05 AM
- - mrwigi   Shane is done for. Cant believe I'm saying thi...   Jul 6 2011, 01:40 PM
- - neophyte7   I agree... Berto would stop him and people would c...   Jul 6 2011, 02:32 PM
- - gravytrain   i think this would be a fight where Mosley shows h...   Jul 6 2011, 02:51 PM
- - Tha Docta   id rather slam my pecker in a car door than watch ...   Jul 6 2011, 03:10 PM


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