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 Jul 4 2011, 05:00 PM
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Both comming off notable losses..
One of which in dominant fasion... Does Mosely have what it takes to compete? Does Mosely deserve a this fight? Does Berto? MORE importantly,... would we even tune in to watch it?... |
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Jul 5 2011, 06:47 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,541 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
Exactly! Tyson was in a league of his own! Berto was exposed, and all that Im saying is that his arm length and height (or maybe his stance) is no help to him at all. Yall are right to a degree, height and arm length are no excuse for a shitty performance in a fight, but if you are truly tested and you cant even fall back on the basics, then you are in trouble. We all saw how desperation kicked in for Berto in his last fight and he had nothing to give.
His arms are short, and he made me nervous when he even attempted a jab because he bent down and reached hard to keep Victor off of him. I dont see this guy having all that much success at 154 and up because of his height and reach, along with his limited skills. Those guys in that division are taller with longer reach (some of them) and Berto hasn't shown us the skills that he needs to break down a bigger guy or get on the inside during a fight. Looking to land one big punch during a fight, will only help you finish the fight on the canvas or come up short. |
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Jul 5 2011, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (cshel86 @ Jul 5 2011, 04:47 PM)  Exactly! Tyson was in a league of his own! Berto was exposed, and all that Im saying is that his arm length and height (or maybe his stance) is no help to him at all. Yall are right to a degree, height and arm length are no excuse for a shitty performance in a fight, but if you are truly tested and you cant even fall back on the basics, then you are in trouble. We all saw how desperation kicked in for Berto in his last fight and he had nothing to give. His arms are short, and he made me nervous when he even attempted a jab because he bent down and reached hard to keep Victor off of him. I dont see this guy having all that much success at 154 and up because of his height and reach, along with his limited skills. Those guys in that division are taller with longer reach (some of them) and Berto hasn't shown us the skills that he needs to break down a bigger guy or get on the inside during a fight. Looking to land one big punch during a fight, will only help you finish the fight on the canvas or come up short. He's just a bad fighter....pacquiao fights at 147 and he's 5'5 and fights bigger guys all the time these days and destroys them so the height and arm length is no excuse..what should berto do then? move down to super welterweight? he just got exposed that simple..... |
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Jul 5 2011, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (PColeman28 @ Jul 6 2011, 01:41 AM) He's just a bad fighter....pacquiao fights at 147 and he's 5'5 and fights bigger guys all the time these days and destroys them so the height and arm length is no excuse..what should berto do then? move down to super welterweight? he just got exposed that simple..... I agree that Berto is no Pacman. But then there aren't many that are comparable to pac currently. Berto doesnt have pacs angles and lateral movement, which is indicative of a lack of skill. But the point is, if you have 2 guys with equal skill and heart, its usually the guy with the physical edge that prevails. Hence the expression 'a good big man beats a good little man'. If you got short arms, boxing becomes a whole lot harder if you can't even fall back on a strong jab to maintain distance. And when a guys swarming you... thats when you need it most This post has been edited by AussieLad: Jul 5 2011, 07:57 PM |
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Jul 5 2011, 10:20 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 4,200 Joined: 10-August 05 Member No.: 3,047 |
QUOTE (AussieLad @ Jul 5 2011, 08:53 PM) I agree that Berto is no Pacman. But then there aren't many that are comparable to pac currently. Berto doesnt have pacs angles and lateral movement, which is indicative of a lack of skill. But the point is, if you have 2 guys with equal skill and heart, its usually the guy with the physical edge that prevails. Hence the expression 'a good big man beats a good little man'. If you got short arms, boxing becomes a whole lot harder if you can't even fall back on a strong jab to maintain distance. And when a guys swarming you... thats when you need it most Hey you ever watch... Tommy Hearns(taller and longer arms) vs Ray Leonard I? Guess who one that welterweight fight? Arguello(taller and longer arms) vs. Pryor I and II? you know the winner of those fights? need I go on? Also... the expression a good big man beats a good little man more pertains to weight and size. Not the way they are built. Come on man. |
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Jul 6 2011, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE (Lil-lightsout @ Jul 6 2011, 03:20 AM) Also... the expression a good big man beats a good little man more pertains to weight and size. Not the way they are built. Come on man. Errr, size is another way of saying the "the way they are built". And in my opinion, the expression refers to smaller men coming up in weight and fighting a naturally larger fight in that guys weight division. |
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