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[Allmenjoi8]

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If Zab beats Khan could that set up a fight with either Mayweather or young Saul Alverez? Both would make entertaining fights.
Now that Mr. Ben Thompson set the record straight about the role of WADA does Arum need to rethink his statement?
Did Tim Bradely make the right choice signing with Top Rank?
How can Ortiz beat May? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rap.gif)

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I think this is a good thing. We now know that Ben is reading our posts and, instead of getting pissed off, he tries to direct the questions to proper authorities. Although I can think of Ben getting pissed off that's why he's asking the proper authorities. Either case, a good thing.

Having said that, i think USADA is the agency when fighters are in the US. Perhaps Ben can shed light on the matter. There are other WADA accredited organizations in other countries?

As for the laboratories, WADA accredits them, not USADA. And there are only a few of them. There is no WADA accredited laboratory in the Philippines. So, Pac's samples has to be flown off to Japan, Malaysia, Thailand, South Korea etc. or directly to the USA. With the right person carrying them. So Floyd can shoulder the costs of giving that person some nice "vacations" in the Philippines.

Then, if Pac tested positive, the USADA still won't be able to decide what to do. NSAC will still have the final say?

In this case, I believe there is no need for middle tiers like USADA. In the olympics, USADA is mandatory for athletes in the US. But in professional boxing, this isn't the case.

Bobby now wants the fight (because Pac is gonna retire soon and doesn't protect a zero in his record). He just doesn't want to get blamed for the fighting getting stalled in the first place.

[D-MARV]

Bobby now wants the fight (because Pac is gonna retire soon and doesn't protect a zero in his record). He just doesn't want to get blamed for the fighting getting stalled in the first place.

Huh?


He is the reason (at least now) why this fight is being stalled.

[Eighty88Eight]

Huh?


He is the reason (at least now) why this fight is being stalled.

I see what you're saying but Mayweather made the request, not Pacquiao. THAT isn't up for debate is it? Just because somebody has some conveniently-timed epiphany and decides to make an asinine request doesn't mean you MUST accept it. You could always make up asinine excuses to avoid accepting that request.

[duwdu]

I see what you're saying but Mayweather made the request, not Pacquiao. THAT isn't up for debate is it? Just because somebody has some conveniently-timed epiphany and decides to make an asinine request doesn't mean you MUST accept it. You could always make up asinine excuses to avoid accepting that request.

I hope you're not referring to the request for OSDT as the "asinine, conveniently-timed request?" If you are, what is asinine about a request that, if negotiated to the satisfaction of both parties, could discourage doping for the fight in a sport where it's been shown that doping is readily practiced? And, again, it is untrue that the request for OSDT was "conveniently timed," because it'd been part of the items to be negotiated from DAY ONE. Bob Arum just put it out to look as if it was pulled from the hat at the last minute. Go figure.

In any case, whether you could put up "asinine excuses to avoid accepting that request" has now been proven to be an infamous move. It has also become a moot point as the two parties are now reported to have converged along the line of the original request, almost two years later. If this convergence holds and a fight night is eventually announced, boxing fans would have to joyously thank The Heavens.

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[Eighty88Eight]

I hope you're not referring to the request for OSDT as the "asinine, conveniently-timed request?" If you are, what is asinine about a request that, if negotiated to the satisfaction of both parties, could discourage doping for the fight in a sport where it's been shown that doping is readily practiced? And, again, it is untrue that the request for OSDT was "conveniently timed," because it'd been part of the items to be negotiated from DAY ONE. Bob Arum just put it out to look as if it was pulled from the hat at the last minute. Go figure.

In any case, whether you could put up "asinine excuses to avoid accepting that request" has now been proven to be an infamous move. It has also become a moot point as the two parties are now reported to have converged along the line of the original request, almost two years later. If this convergence holds and a fight night is eventually announced, boxing fans would have to joyously thank The Heavens.

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conveniently timed, indeed. mayweather waited until he perceived a threat to reach his epiphany. i agree with his stance, and he has a right to be suspicious, but the request has more than just a whiff of professional envy. "how can this man be extraordinary?" were his words. only IM allowed to be extraordinary. only IM allowed to come up from 106 at age 16. only IM allowed to win 4 lineal championships in..... oh wait. why didnt mayweather ask marquez to take the test just a few months earlier? both sides are hypocrites.

[wolterb]

conveniently timed, indeed. mayweather waited until he perceived a threat to reach his epiphany. i agree with his stance, and he has a right to be suspicious, but the request has more than just a whiff of professional envy. "how can this man be extraordinary?" were his words. only IM allowed to be extraordinary. only IM allowed to come up from 106 at age 16. only IM allowed to win 4 lineal championships in..... oh wait. why didnt mayweather ask marquez to take the test just a few months earlier? both sides are hypocrites.

totally agree. i like floyd and manny. but there is defintely shenanigans on both sides of the coin