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[Jack 1000]

In my view, by doing something that few have been able to accomplish. Applying pressure, taking away the jab, and getting inside. I assess the Vitali would be harder to beat than Wlad, because Wlad has a suspect chin. Consider the following:

And all the while, it seems like opponents should be able to get inside, because I think that the Klits often hold their hands low. Actually, I don't see them jabbing, jabbing, and jabbing like say Ali did with the movement and agility.

The Kitschko's aren't busy fighters because they don't have to be. They are however, dominate fighters with a huge height and reach advantage over everyone else. But maybe that is largely due to the fact that this heavyweight division for contenders is a fucking piece of shit! (Thanks for NOTHING, Haye!!!)

So in assessing the Klits what great heavyweight champions of the past beat them and how do they beat them? They take the jab away, but asses a past heavyweight champion and how he does that.

Jack

[Eighty88Eight]

The Klitschko's are very skillful. Other big men aren't as quick or as smart as they are. Credit must be given, they fight the only way they really can, and they fight to their complete potential. Of how many athletes can you say that without hyperbole? They've been so dominant and have made it look so easy that nobody takes any consideration for the disadvantages inherent in being so big. For one, you're a big ass motherfucker whose heart literally can't pump enough blood to handle a fast pace fight, and are also susceptible to sudden fatigue and breathlessness. If you're looking for a model of consistent excellence, it probably wouldn't be from a 6'6'' lumbering giant.

Whoever is going to beat them is gonna have to back them into the ropes and unleash rib-crushing body shots. That requires some speed, a good deal of power, good stamina, a solid chin, and more than a little courage. All qualities their current line of opponents simply dont have. Otherwise, one would have to force the Klitchko's into a fire fight and hope to wear them out that way. Good luck.

This post has been edited by Eighty88Eight: Jul 18 2011, 08:56 AM

[Method]

Whoever is going to beat them is gonna have to back them into the ropes and unleash rib-crushing body shots.

It's already been proven, more than once, that it does NOT take backing "them into the ropes and unleashing rib-crushing body shots".

This post has been edited by Method: Jul 18 2011, 02:02 PM

[Eighty88Eight]

It's already been proven, more than once, that it does NOT take backing "them into the ropes and unleashing rib-crushing body shots".

Just because it's been attempted doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Physical talent is assumed here. You're not gonna beat a Klitschko on strategy alone.

[Method]

Just because it's been attempted doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Physical talent is assumed here. You're not gonna beat a Klitschko on strategy alone.

I dont understand how that reads. Just because its been attempted doesn't mean it wouldn't work?

My contention is that baby brother has been KO'd by guys that did FAR LESS, and strategized FAR LESS.

When his chin gets touched, he goes into John Ruiz mode.

[Eighty88Eight]

I dont understand how that reads. Just because its been attempted doesn't mean it wouldn't work?

My contention is that baby brother has been KO'd by guys that did FAR LESS, and strategized FAR LESS.

When his chin gets touched, he goes into John Ruiz mode.

just because its been tried before doesn't mean it wouldn't work if done correctly, by a fighter with some skills. Wlad is a much better fighter than he used to be, and he's inculcated himself against fighters whose strategy essentially amounts to nothing more than throwing limp jabs to the body then leaping up with wide punches. David Haye should have at least tried looping punches instead of just leaping with lead left hooks. Wlad is better conditioned, more courageous, sharper, slicker, and smarter than he used to be. Brewster beat him because Wlad punched himself out during a time in his career when he wasn't yet fully committed to his craft.