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[thehype]

Thoughts on how this will have an impact on his relationship with Top Rank:

MANNY PACQUIAO HIRES OUTSIDE FIRM TO HANDLE BOXING CONTRACTS; ALTERS LANDSCAPE OF TEAM PACQUIAO

According to a press release on his official website, MP8.ph, Manny Pacquiao has hired the services of VisionQwest Resource Group, Inc. and VisionQwest Accountancy Group, to handle "all accounting, personal and business tax, audits and examinations, as well as all contract reviews." The firm, which specializes in in taxation, corporate finance and organizational structuring, strategic planning and marketing, will now be responsible for reviewing all contracts, including those regarding his boxing career, prior to his signing. The most interesting information noted in the press release is that VisionQwest has retained the services of "a strong boxing business professional who has a solid background in fighter management and negotiations."

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[Method]

So much for the "outside muscle".

[SmartyBeardo]

So much for the "outside muscle".

Indeed.

VisionQwest was out of their league from the get go, it appears. Or, this is just going to get uglier.

[Method]

Indeed.

VisionQwest was out of their league from the get go, it appears. Or, this is just going to get uglier.

I think VisionQuest might be out of their league (or might not), and that its definitely going to get uglier.

None of this is surprising at all. IMP, it all points back to Manny and the idiots he has around him. This is NOT the first time we've seen these wild swings in decision making w Paq. Remember when he signed two separate promotional contracts w both GBP and TRP? IF I were Paq, and this Vision Qwest shit turns out to blow up in his face, I'd be firing the motherfucker that brought Vision Qwest into the damn picture from jump.

Like I said in the first page of this thread - Bob Arum is a Harvard trained lawyer, graduated cum laude, and worked at US Attorney's office in the tax division. He's not some Johnny-come-lately.

VisionQwest cut their teeth in the medical fraud claims/accounting...oh, and they're looking to buy an NBA team.
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To be quite honest, I cant even keep track of the bottom line of this whole situation - what exactly is the point that's trying to made on the front page with all the flip-flopping headlines?

Konsz is OUT! Vision Qwest is IN! Arizia loves the "F" word! Manny says Koncz is IN! Koncz is in! Koncz is an errand boy! Vision Qwest is out!

The key takeaway, as far as I can gather, is that Manny Pacquiao's Team is in complete fucking disarray.

[thehype]

To be quite honest, I cant even keep track of the bottom line of this whole situation - what exactly is the point that's trying to made on the front page with all the flip-flopping headlines?

Konsz is OUT! Vision Qwest is IN! Arizia loves the "F" word! Manny says Koncz is IN! Koncz is in! Koncz is an errand boy! Vision Qwest is out!

The key takeaway, as far as I can gather, is that Manny Pacquiao's Team is in complete fucking disarray.

I disagree....you're smarter than that Method...at least I think you are.

The point is, Pacquiao is getting fucked by Arum (no surprise there), and yet he's too fucking dumb to listen to the people (his own fucking wife) who are trying to help him.

But hey, if you're THAT confused about what's going on with the front page headlines, you have my phone number, so I'm sure you would have called or shot me a text about it if you were really that interested in it.

More than the team being in disarray, it's about Pacquiao having no clue about what the fuck he's doing while he burns through all of his money gambling and then begs daddy Arum for advances.

[Method]

The point is, Pacquiao is getting fucked by Arum (no surprise there), and yet he's too fucking dumb to listen to the people (his own fucking wife) who are trying to help him...

...More than the team being in disarray, it's about Pacquiao having no clue about what the fuck he's doing while he burns through all of his money gambling and then begs daddy Arum for advances.

Where in all of those front page stories had it been established that Pacquiao is being fucked by Arum? I guess I missed that part. Maybe another timeline is in order to correctly chronologize what's transpired.

I think at the end of the day, this is EXACTLY about Pac having no clue, and taking one too many "free ones".

To be fair, I dont know that I'd listen to ANY of my my wife's suggestions regarding my business dealings. On second thought, I DO KNOW that I wouldn't listen to my wife. My wife has no fucking understanding of what it is I do and how my business works. It MIGHT be the case that Mrs. Pac is just as clueless (might not be the case, but it might). Sig others serve as great examples of the definition of a critic - they can tell you how to get there, but they can't drive the car.

No need for text messages about it. So far, this thing has been playing out pretty much as I thought it would - which is to say it's chaotic mess, and nothing has played out as advertised so far.

This post has been edited by Method: Aug 21 2011, 01:37 PM

[thehype]

Where in all of those front page stories had it been established that Pacquiao is being fucked by Arum? I guess I missed that part. Maybe another timeline is in order to correctly chronologize what's transpired.

I think at the end of the day, this is EXACTLY about Pac having no clue, and taking one too many "free ones".

To be fair, I dont know that I'd listen to ANY of my my wife's suggestions regarding my business dealings. On second thought, I DO KNOW that I wouldn't listen to my wife. My wife has no fucking understanding of what it is I do and how my business works. It MIGHT be the case that Mrs. Pac is just as clueless (might not be the case, but it might). Sig others serve as great examples of the definition of a critic - they can tell you how to get there, but they can't drive the car.

No need for text messages about it. So far, this thing has been playing out pretty much as I thought it would - which is to say it's chaotic mess, and nothing has played out as advertised so far.

Did you miss the article that clearly says Bob Arum is trying to remove VisionQwest from Pacquiao's services because he's not happy about the fact that they contacted NSAC to gather information? Did that not sum things up? Surely you're intelligent enough to read between the lines of anything that I put out there. Perhaps a timeline IS in order if even you can't catch on to what I've been saying.

And I'm sorry, but if my wife WAS BETTER AT BUSINESS than me (which IS THE CASE when it comes to Jinkee and my-dumb-ass-gives-up-money-to-two-promoters Manny), I think I probably would listen to her if she came to me with some concerning information relating to my money.

But hey, if you want to believe that Manny's the one with the great business mind in that relationship, more power to you.

And I didn't really expect any text messages about it. I was simply implying that if you were THAT confused about the front page headlines, you have my number and are free to get the confusion cleared up at any time as opposed to voicing your confusion on the message board.

[Method]

Did you miss the article that clearly says Bob Arum is trying to remove VisionQwest from Pacquiao's services because he's not happy about the fact that they contacted NSAC to gather information? Did that not sum things up?

No. I do not deduce from that, that Bob Arum is fucking over Pacquiao. What I deduce from that is that Arum is pissed about the involvement of VisonQwest. Too many chefs in the kitchen. COULD Arum be fucking Pacquiao over? Yup, its possible, but nothing dropped so far by sources close to the info has proven that.

Arum shouldn't be surprised in the least that VisionQwest asked to see the contracts. They're conducting an audit. Those contracts are filed w the state. That's common practice that VisionQwest would want to check the contracts on file. We'll see. Or not.

My only question (maybe its valid and maybe it ain't) - what the fuck is taking VisionQwest so damn long to uncover any improprieties? It just doesn't take that fucking long. The other question is, how could Bob Arum convinced Pacquiao to drop VQ's services?

I don't believe Manny's business mind is all there whatsoever. He and Jinny are blind leading the blind, in all likelihood - "show me the way to the next Karaoke joint"

I think the only thing I maintained in this thread is that the whole situation is chaotic, contradictory, and nothing has really been established - well, other than maybe a bunch of gravy-traners jockeying for position on the Pacquiao scrotum pole.

I doesn't appear that VisionQwest is that capable. It doesn't seem that Manny and his inner-circle are that capable. I could be wrong, given that nobody seems to have the slightest clue, but I think my money is on Bob Arum in all of this. Give me the Harvard honors grad, who has extensive experience in tax law. How is it that Arum, who has no authority to do so himself, convinced Manny and Co. to terminate VisionQwest?

I have every reason to believe you are in touch w sources close to the information. Of that Im sure. I also believe that the information (and thus the headlines) is all over the place because Pac and his crew are all over the place.

Pacq's ripping through his money, and now all the sudden he's looking to blame somebody for why he don't have what he thought he did.

[thehype]

"show me the way to the next Karaoke joint"

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That's fucked up and yet oh so funny.

Seemed to me like you were implying that you had no idea what point the articles on the front page were trying to point out. In my opinion, it seemed fairly obvious that if you read above, below, and between the lines, it looks as though Bob Arum is covering his tracks, and the easiest way to do that is to eliminate the people following the tracks. I figured as long as you've been around here, you would know that, but clearly, I'll have to start doing a better job of making it more crystal clear.