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[mexi-cutioner]

Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions speculated yesterday at the Khan vs Judah post-fight press conference that junior welterweight Timothy Bradley has been promised a fight with Manny Pacquiao by Top Rank, and that he'll fight on the November 12 undercard of the Pacquiao vs Marquez III event in Las Vegas.


"What’s wrong with December [for a Khan vs Bradley fight]?" [Schaefer] asked aloud. "He’s not available in December? Probably not. Probably because he’s going to be fighting on the Pacquiao card and is promised the Pacquiao fight, that’s why. We don’t need to wait for that, that kind of bulls**t, that kind of plays and games, and so on. We’re in the boxing business. We’re not in the gaming business."

First of all, I love Schaefer's idea that "the boxing business" isn't filled with "plays and games and bulls**t," or, if more applicable, his idea that Golden Boy has never taken part in any of it. You might think that Schaefer wouldn't make this comment, considering it pretty much says that Top Rank did contact Timothy Bradley before Bradley's contract with Gary Shaw Productions and Thompson Boxing was up (which was heavily rumored, with Shaw serving papers to Top Rank, but never proven as true fact).

Though it's not confirmed or anything, it's something I've speculated for a while and I wouldn't be surprised to see Bradley fight Mike Jones on the undercard since Jones has been shortlisted by Arum as a possible opponent for Pac AND has a date on either the Nov.12 or Dec.3 PPV Card. If it is true, it does add some juice to the undercard which will already feature Brandon Rios vs either Katsidis or Kevin Mitchell.

[Guest_ViperSniper_*]

I'm not sure what being slower, cheating, CW or even damaged fighter has to do with it. At the end of the day Margarito can still punch and I'm actually gonna pick him in the rematch with Cotto.

Did they cherry pick a shit fighter to wina meaningless title? yes. would they do it again if someone feather fisted like Yuri Foreman held a strap? Probably however watching that fight Manny was hurt more than once, although i think we can all agree about the 1 obvious time you are referring to.

It's common knowledge that he was in bed for a couple of days after the fight and he even cancelled one of those dinky concerts he likes to do after a fight. I still say he got hurt way more than they planned.

Surely everyone's got their ceiling? Or would you just expect Manny to keep going up and up and up? They tried fighting someone at 150 who has a decent punch with the safety net of knowing that the guy was slow and one dimensional should Manny get into trouble. They found out that 150 and above is going to be a stretch for Manny. And fighting someone who can really punch but has some speed and technique as well would be crazy.

For the record I would say the same for Floyd as well. These guys started at under 130 pounds and I for one don't expect them to just keep going up in weight and fighting bigger and bigger and bigger guys. In fact they're damn lucky they aren't fighting 10 years earlier when they would've had to fight Winky, Vernon, Vargas, Trinidad, De la Hoya and Vernon.

It has close to everything to do with it! I am also gonna pick him in the rematch with Cotto too! What does him being 'bigger' got to do with anything? It was still an atrocious fight against a guy that had no reason being inside the ring..specially on the biggest stage against the p4p king! I've seen many, many fans bring up Manny taking that body shot & going to the hospital as that is some form of credit to give him? So when I see some make it out like poor Manny copped a beating or even some form of punishment from Margs is not only inaccurate but also irrelevant. Manny clearly gave Margs a beating without getting touched too much in the process, yet many would think he came out of a war with Margs being hurt more than once and going to hospital!

That's my point to this. I don't think Manny was that hurt at all, nor was he hurt more than once either. Margs landed a good body shot somewhere in the middle-late rounds and that's about it. That's why I don't see you side of "he got hurt way more than they planned" because Margs landed a good shot compared to Pac's hundreds. How much planning can be done?

I don't expect Manny to keep moving up & up & up but if he does decide to take that road then yes, I do expect him to face the best like countless greats have done in the past! How many safety nets do you need when going for a title when that someone above 150 was a drained, damaged Margarito? Why is it so crazy Manny fights above 150 (or above Welterweight)? Why? Because he would not be unfairly advantaged over his opponent for once? Because he would actually get tested for once in the ring? Because he would actually lose? Is it a Risk? Yeah! Crazy? Not at all!

For the record I would and do say the same thing about Mayweather. Both have/can make the Junior Middleweight limit, both claim Junior Middleweight titles yet the idea of them moving up to face someone who posses a risk is quickly turned into an out of the question scenario.

Yes! Agree 100% with that man! They're very damn lucky they did not fight at a time those names were around!

By the way, I may be responding to you Ollie, but you are far from the 1st person I've seen that has this same angle of Pac post WW, which I've never completely liked..one bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh no. A fighter got hurt in a boxing fight and was sore the next day, need to make sure they can't let that happen again, lol.

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This post has been edited by ViperSniper: Jul 25 2011, 07:08 AM

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It has close to everything to do with it! I am also gonna pick him in the rematch with Cotto too! What does him being 'bigger' got to do with anything? It was still an atrocious fight against a guy that had no reason being inside the ring..specially on the biggest stage against the p4p king! I've seen many, many fans bring up Manny taking that body shot & going to the hospital as that is some form of credit to give him? So when I see some make it out like poor Manny copped a beating or even some form of punishment from Margs is not only inaccurate but also irrelevant. Manny clearly gave Margs a beating without getting touched too much in the process, yet many would think he came out of a war with Margs being hurt more than once and going to hospital!

That's my point to this. I don't think Manny was that hurt at all, nor was he hurt more than once either. Margs landed a good body shot somewhere in the middle-late rounds and that's about it. That's why I don't see you side of "he got hurt way more than they planned" because Margs landed a good shot compared to Pac's hundreds. How much planning can be done?

I don't expect Manny to keep moving up & up & up but if he does decide to take that road then yes, I do expect him to face the best like countless greats have done in the past! How many safety nets do you need when going for a title when that someone above 150 was a drained, damaged Margarito? Why is it so crazy Manny fights above 150 (or above Welterweight)? Why? Because he would not be unfairly advantaged over his opponent for once? Because he would actually get tested for once in the ring? Because he would actually lose? Is it a Risk? Yeah! Crazy? Not at all!

For the record I would and do say the same thing about Mayweather. Both have/can make the Junior Middleweight limit, both claim Junior Middleweight titles yet the idea of them moving up to face someone who posses a risk is quickly turned into an out of the question scenario.

Yes! Agree 100% with that man! They're very damn lucky they did not fight at a time those names were around!

By the way, I may be responding to you Ollie, but you are far from the 1st person I've seen that has this same angle of Pac post WW, which I've never completely liked..one bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)




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I don't even think Manny is a big WW let alone JMW. There are some big boys in that divsion and not one that I would personally be interested in seeing either guy fight in. Just my opinion.

Can we just get some half decent fights in at WW before asking any of those guys to fight at 154? It's like some dudes here are saying they would like to see Martinez fight certain guys at 168. See I think that's crazy too.

At the end of the day both Floyd and Manny got caught cherrypicking a lil in regards to 154 but I'm not going to hold those fights over their heads as some kind of reason to go up to that division.