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[Allmenjoi8]

According to a recent article by Michael Marely (speculation can start now) Bob Arum has stated that there is nothing holding up the fight between May and Pac. Michael asked Arum what about the testing issue, Arum said there is no issue that everything has been settled. My question is, is this hype of is it for real? Can there be a possible 2012 match between the two biggest names in boxing. I would have May by either UD or a late stoppage due to Manny's eye shut. I would say Manny but his has 0 boxing skills, no jab, and his defense is left to be desired, now he does have a punchers chance, I doubt if May would let him get close to him to have that chance. May will box him throughout the fight and use his size against Pac and uses his reach to tag Manny all night. This fight will resemble how he fought Judah.

[Cshel86]

If we were to drink to every Floyd and Manny thread...then we would all be shit-faced hammered by now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drinks.gif) Until both of these dudes meet in the center of the ring after the opening bell, I could care less about this fight. Honestly, this fight isn't going to "save boxing" like everybody (fans, boxing staff, other fighters) is fussing about. How can these two save boxing, when they are killing it in the process? May and Pac, along with their teams are more of a distraction to the sport than anything. Dont get me wrong, I like both fighters, but these "negotiations" are more misleading than promotional, and awfully selfish for the sport.

The only thing that really matters are these rising stars (or lack there of) that are supposed to be working hard to become the next PPV stars, but they cant even step up and pull that off. All they want to do is, talk like, fight like, and make money like May and Pac, but fail to walk their own path in the sport. Then they sit around and depend on May and Pac to "save the sport". We all know that these two big fighters only have a few more fights left before they either walk away from the sport or start to get their asses kicked and retire afterwards. What if the fight happens and the first fight is dull or doesn't live up to the hype. What if the rematch gets stopped on a cut? We all know that fights can be worth the hype, or they can end terribly and disappoint the fans.

Im just hoping that these young fighters give us great fights and build the sport up to where its supposed to be once again. I miss the De La Hoya, Trinidad, Vargas, Mosley, Mayorga, Wright, Hopkins, and Forrest days when everybody fought eachother and made boxing worth watching. The 140 lb division was supposed to provide that, but we see how fast that plane crashed.

[Jack 1000]

If we were to drink to every Floyd and Manny thread...then we would all be shit-faced hammered by now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drinks.gif) Until both of these dudes meet in the center of the ring after the opening bell, I could care less about this fight. Honestly, this fight isn't going to "save boxing" like everybody (fans, boxing staff, other fighters) is fussing about. How can these two save boxing, when they are killing it in the process? May and Pac, along with their teams are more of a distraction to the sport than anything. Dont get me wrong, I like both fighters, but these "negotiations" are more misleading than promotional, and awfully selfish for the sport.

The only thing that really matters are these rising stars (or lack there of) that are supposed to be working hard to become the next PPV stars, but they cant even step up and pull that off. All they want to do is, talk like, fight like, and make money like May and Pac, but fail to walk their own path in the sport. Then they sit around and depend on May and Pac to "save the sport". We all know that these two big fighters only have a few more fights left before they either walk away from the sport or start to get their asses kicked and retire afterwards. What if the fight happens and the first fight is dull or doesn't live up to the hype. What if the rematch gets stopped on a cut? We all know that fights can be worth the hype, or they can end terribly and disappoint the fans.

Im just hoping that these young fighters give us great fights and build the sport up to where its supposed to be once again. I miss the De La Hoya, Trinidad, Vargas, Mosley, Mayorga, Wright, Hopkins, and Forrest days when everybody fought eachother and made boxing worth watching. The 140 lb division was supposed to provide that, but we see how fast that plane crashed.

Brilliant Post! I agree 100%! I mean we aren't even past the drug testing. Wait till they bitch about purses, referees, and judges. By the time this fight happens, if it ever happens, at the rate this is going, most of us are gonna be in the old folks home, and won't care anymore. It just seems it's always something with these two for the last two years.

Jack

[Cshel86]

Brilliant Post! I agree 100%! I mean we aren't even past the drug testing. Wait till they bitch about purses, referees, and judges. By the time this fight happens, if it ever happens, at the rate this is going, most of us are gonna be in the old folks home, and won't care anymore. It just seems it's always something with these two for the last two years.

Jack

Thanks for the support man. I've been as patient as I possibly could be with this fight, but Im at the end of my rope. Im catching myself making excuses for both of these guys, and thats just crazy. I support both of them in whatever they do, but until they fight, I will leave it alone. Nobody even peeps the pattern here, these guys are leading us all to believe that the fight will happen soon, but yet they are fighting other fights and building up this big fight, all in the same breath.

If they were to have fought last March, then that would have been the highest purse yet, for both of them. Who else would they have fought after a rematch or trilogy, that would have generated that much money? Who else has been successful at building up their names and fight patterns to even bring these two as much money as they would have made off of each other? I see these two making as money as they can off of these premilinary bouts leading up to their showdown, then they will cash out and leave the sport hanging dry.

If they weren't being so selfish, then they could fight each other next year. Then the both of them could fight a total of four of these up and coming PPV stars (or lack there of) to build their little names up, then build up a rematch or maybe even a trilogy to close out their careers. So now, we will have retirement benefits in the sport after May and Pac leave, instead of feeling pressed to watch these slow rising stars, or even worse, people may really turn away from the sport for good after this megafight if these youngsters are nothing to watch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) I dont know about everybody else, but Im ready for Berto, Alexander, Bradley (really dont like him all that much), Khan, Ortiz, Maidana, Matthysse, Martinez, and so forth, to start headlining these PPVs. May and Pac will not be around forever. Glad May is giving Ortiz a chance to shine, because eveybody else is getting older and older as we speak.

This post has been edited by cshel86: Aug 5 2011, 08:37 AM

[EAlbian]

Thanks for the support man. I've been as patient as I possibly could be with this fight, but Im at the end of my rope. Im catching myself making excuses for both of these guys, and thats just crazy. I support both of them in whatever they do, but until they fight, I will leave it alone. Nobody even peeps the pattern here, these guys are leading us all to believe that the fight will happen soon, but yet they are fighting other fights and building up this big fight, all in the same breath.

If they were to have fought last March, then that would have been the highest purse yet, for both of them. Who else would they have fought after a rematch or trilogy, that would have generated that much money? Who else has been successful at building up their names and fight patterns to even bring these two as much money as they would have made off of each other? I see these two making as money as they can off of these premilinary bouts leading up to their showdown, then they will cash out and leave the sport hanging dry.

If they weren't being so selfish, then they could fight each other next year. Then the both of them could fight a total of four of these up and coming PPV stars (or lack there of) to build their little names up, then build up a rematch or maybe even a trilogy to close out their careers. So now, we will have retirement benefits in the sport after May and Pac leave, instead of feeling pressed to watch these slow rising stars, or even worse, people may really turn away from the sport for good after this megafight if these youngsters are nothing to watch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) I dont know about everybody else, but Im ready for Berto, Alexander, Bradley (really dont like him all that much), Khan, Ortiz, Maidana, Matthysse, Martinez, and so forth, to start headlining these PPVs. May and Pac will not be around forever. Glad May is giving Ortiz a chance to shine, because eveybody else is getting older and older as we speak.

Gotta agree with you, I believe they both are hurting the sport with their antics. I truly believe they both think they are bigger than the sport itself right now. the fight needs to get over and on with so that boxing fans can have some closure and the debates can end. New stars deserve the right to shine and as long as they remain in the sport without fighting each other they are holding boxing back. There are so many good fights that can be made without either yet no matter who's fighting their names seem to surface in the telecast.

[thehype]

I believe they both are hurting the sport with their antics. I truly believe they both think they are bigger than the sport itself right now. the fight needs to get over and on with so that boxing fans can have some closure and the debates can end. New stars deserve the right to shine and as long as they remain in the sport without fighting each other they are holding boxing back. There are so many good fights that can be made without either yet no matter who's fighting their names seem to surface in the telecast.

I disagree. The longer they DON'T fight each other, the longer the sport gets more publicity. In my opinion, I think their antics have brought A LOT of attention to the sport...a lot more than it was getting prior to talks of them fighting. So long as they DON'T fight each other, new stars actually will get a chance to shine. Victor Ortiz will have his opportunity in September. Perhaps Amir Khan and Timothy Bradley will also get their chance. The minute they do fight though, that's pretty much gonna be a wrap for either one or both of their careers. As long as they don't fight, they will both have their own PPV cards, which will give other fighters an opportunity to shine on their undercards. It's kind of like having two networks to fight for. I mean, just imagine if they fought back in March 2010. If Mayweather won, he probably would have retired for good because there's no one else really out there other than Martinez, but that's not a big fight at all, so I doubt he would have been all that motivated to fight Martinez for $20-$40 million when he just made $100+ million. Same with Pacquiao, if he won, he likely would have became a politician and bounced from the sport too. As long as they don't fight each other, they'll keep on fighting others to outshine each other. That's a good thing for the sport as it creates a lot of mega-fights that we likely wouldn't have got. Imagine having to pay for Bradley vs. Alexander or Khan vs. Judah on PPV. LOL.

And they're not holding back boxing at all. Boxing is on the rise lately. In fact, there's been quite a few good scraps that have taken place regardless of whether or not they've fought.

Just my two cents though.