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Allmenjoi8
post Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM
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According to a recent article by Michael Marely (speculation can start now) Bob Arum has stated that there is nothing holding up the fight between May and Pac. Michael asked Arum what about the testing issue, Arum said there is no issue that everything has been settled. My question is, is this hype of is it for real? Can there be a possible 2012 match between the two biggest names in boxing. I would have May by either UD or a late stoppage due to Manny's eye shut. I would say Manny but his has 0 boxing skills, no jab, and his defense is left to be desired, now he does have a punchers chance, I doubt if May would let him get close to him to have that chance. May will box him throughout the fight and use his size against Pac and uses his reach to tag Manny all night. This fight will resemble how he fought Judah.
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post Aug 8 2011, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Hops @ Aug 8 2011, 10:09 AM) *
Fuck! To avoid complications, just let Floyd or the one who promotes him pay for everything. If Floyd wants USADA in the Philippines because he doesn't trust Pinoys and at the same time he doesn't want any other WADA sanctioned organization to collect blood samples, then Floyd or his promoter must pay USADA personnel to go to the Philippines. End of story.



I would bet you if FMJ had to pay for it, it wouldn't be an issue anymore! Just my opinion!
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post Aug 8 2011, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 8 2011, 11:31 AM) *
I would bet you if FMJ had to pay for it, it wouldn't be an issue anymore! Just my opinion!

If he's really tryin' to clean up the sport like he claims, payin' shouldn't be a problem.
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post Aug 8 2011, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Aug 8 2011, 04:52 PM) *
If he's really tryin' to clean up the sport like he claims, payin' shouldn't be a problem.


If Floyd is really trying to clean up the sport, then as someone already mentioned, every fighter on the undercard would be getting tested. Floyd has enough clout to make that happen on a show he is headlining. Please dont tell me its too expensive either, because IF Floyd wanted to clean up the sport he would lay that down in the negotiations and the promoters would pay it to get him to fight. It would be good publicity for his "cause" and it woould help cascade the testing idea down through the sport. When the guys lower down on the card go through that it might stay with them when they are the big names of tomorrow.

Floyd is only one man, but as far as this PPV goes, hes the one man that matters. He could strike a blow for the testing cause in every one of his shows from now to retirement, but until someone can show me that what iv described is happening, then that is conclusive proof to me that Floyds testing regime is a lot of bullshit.
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QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Aug 8 2011, 11:06 AM) *
If Floyd is really trying to clean up the sport, then as someone already mentioned, every fighter on the undercard would be getting tested. Floyd has enough clout to make that happen on a show he is headlining. Please dont tell me its too expensive either, because IF Floyd wanted to clean up the sport he would lay that down in the negotiations and the promoters would pay it to get him to fight. It would be good publicity for his "cause" and it woould help cascade the testing idea down through the sport. When the guys lower down on the card go through that it might stay with them when they are the big names of tomorrow.

Floyd is only one man, but as far as this PPV goes, hes the one man that matters. He could strike a blow for the testing cause in every one of his shows from now to retirement, but until someone can show me that what iv described is happening, then that is conclusive proof to me that Floyds testing regime is a lot of bullshit.


Isn't he already demanding that in his contract? There maybe a lot of dirty fighters right now and perhaps the different boxing commissions would look really dumb for not picking up fighters that cheat. I am sure there is also a lot of red tape involved with new testing. In this economy no state wants to spend more money of testing when urine testing is cheap and easy. I pose this question to you: Let's say Andre Ward or Manny demanded OST to all their fights would there be a backlash or do you think because MJ said it people raise eyebrows or they think he is full of crap. The message is a good one but maybe the messenger is the problem. I never have seen a backlash with someone wanting better testing in a sport especially a sport that you can die from or become injured for life.
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post Aug 8 2011, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 8 2011, 05:35 PM) *
Isn't he already demanding that in his contract? There maybe a lot of dirty fighters right now and perhaps the different boxing commissions would look really dumb for not picking up fighters that cheat. I am sure there is also a lot of red tape involved with new testing. In this economy no state wants to spend more money of testing when urine testing is cheap and easy. I pose this question to you: Let's say Andre Ward or Manny demanded OST to all their fights would there be a backlash or do you think because MJ said it people raise eyebrows or they think he is full of crap. The message is a good one but maybe the messenger is the problem. I never have seen a backlash with someone wanting better testing in a sport especially a sport that you can die from or become injured for life.


I think my post contained my thoughts on that question. IF Floyd is making EVERYONE on his bill take tests, for the purpose of cascading this stance through the different tiers of boxing then fair enough. But id need to see evidence of that before I accept that Floyds testing stance is anything more than posturing bullshit, and in the worst case, a way out of fighting you know who.
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- Allmenjoi8   Arum claims that there no Issues concerning May&Pac Fight   Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM)...   Aug 4 2011, 09:46 AM
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- - caneman   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Aug 4 2011, 10:32 A...   Aug 4 2011, 10:37 AM
- - Allmenjoi8   my bad. Its is on boxingscene.com   Aug 4 2011, 11:02 AM
- - caneman   pfffft   Aug 4 2011, 12:04 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   Pacquiao supposedly told Moy Lainez that the Maywe...   Aug 4 2011, 12:10 PM
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- - Hotsauce   yea yea yea   Aug 4 2011, 12:59 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   You don't know Moy Lainez? You must not know t...   Aug 4 2011, 01:05 PM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTE I would say Manny but his has 0 boxing skill...   Aug 4 2011, 01:52 PM
- - thehype   LOL Yeah right! Arum says there are no issue...   Aug 4 2011, 02:14 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 4 2011, 02:14 PM) LO...   Aug 4 2011, 02:16 PM
|- - True-Boxing-Fan   QUOTE (thehype @ Aug 4 2011, 12:14 PM) LO...   Aug 4 2011, 03:10 PM
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- - caneman   On another note there is this!!!! ...   Aug 4 2011, 03:58 PM
- - Hops   How can the fight happen when Pacquiao has filed f...   Aug 4 2011, 06:53 PM
- - Hops   And on a side note. WADA > USADA. If it has a g...   Aug 4 2011, 07:02 PM
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