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Allmenjoi8
post Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM
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According to a recent article by Michael Marely (speculation can start now) Bob Arum has stated that there is nothing holding up the fight between May and Pac. Michael asked Arum what about the testing issue, Arum said there is no issue that everything has been settled. My question is, is this hype of is it for real? Can there be a possible 2012 match between the two biggest names in boxing. I would have May by either UD or a late stoppage due to Manny's eye shut. I would say Manny but his has 0 boxing skills, no jab, and his defense is left to be desired, now he does have a punchers chance, I doubt if May would let him get close to him to have that chance. May will box him throughout the fight and use his size against Pac and uses his reach to tag Manny all night. This fight will resemble how he fought Judah.
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post Aug 8 2011, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 7 2011, 08:13 PM) *
Im not here to make friends either, but at the same time, I commend others on fact-based posts, and so forth. If you are making attention-seeking comments, then obviously you need some type of attention/friendship...go and find some friends in the real world. Im not a huge Pacquiao fan, I favor Mayweather just a bit more, but Im against any big name fighter/figure getting jerked out of what they are truly worth.

You speak of having "fun" around here, and thats odd for a man to try to find another man to pick/have fun with...sounds kinda funny to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dntknw.gif) You talk about nutsack content, but obviously a man without enough "below the belt" to please a woman, would be on here looking for another man to "have fun" with. Like I said before, if you dont have a better way of commenting on my posts, then leave it alone. I have enough females worried about what I say and do...I DEFINITELY dont need a man clocking my every post. Go find somebody to play with bro (IMG:style_emoticons/default/no2.gif)

That's more like it.

You're "against any big name fighter/figure getting jerked out of what they are truly worth." Much better than you're "scared" that poor Pac isn't getting enough 10's of millions of dollars to amount to more than crumbs.

That said, what is Pac "truly worth." Do you have any idea? And, how did he become worth that amount of crumbs? Don't start with the "he's the one risking his life in there bullshit." He would still be risking his life in the ring in some PI shithole for bananas and peanuts if a keen eyed, ruthless promoter had not spotted his potential and got him together with a decent trainer that could take him to the next level. I cap on Dusty the Organ Grinder constantly for being the prick that he is but Pac would not be the phenom he became without the promotion, management and training afforded by a company like TopWank.

The contracts are where the rubber meets the road. If the contracts were violated or altered then Pac deserves his due. He seems to have taken steps to seize greater control of his business, beginning with managing his brand, the current contractual relationships and their potential.

Talent is worth what is negotiated, period. This isn't RomperFuckinRoom. This is business. There are winners and there are losers. If you don't have the ability or resources to negotiate a decent contract, you lose. Yes, fighters are taken advantage of often but that does not mean that they aren't getting what they are worth. It just means they got beaten at the negotiating table.

I've been on both sides of that table. You learn or you get fucked. That's life in this reality. If that scares you . . . well, you aren't going to be part of the solution.

As far as your posts go, you keep posting dumb assed shit like you are "scared" that Pac aint getting enough 10s of millions of dollars of "crumbs" and I'll keep "clockin" them.

And dudes that make a point of talking about how many women are interested in their dumb assed comments generally spend their time fucking themselves. Don't short out your digital device there cshel.

QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 7 2011, 09:16 PM) *
Bald!! Oh say it aint so Beardo. C'mon dude you're the Chuck Norris of FH, no way can you be bald (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The very idea that Pac might not be getting as many 10s of millions of dollars as he deserves made my hair fall out, Ollie. It is just terrifying, I'm tellin' ya.

QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Aug 8 2011, 08:59 AM) *
SmartyBeardo can delete the recycle bin
SmartyBeardo can leave a message before the beep
There is no such thing as race, only groups of people whom SmartyBeardo has beaten to different shades
There is no theory of evolution, only a list of creatures SmartyBeardo allows to live
When SmartyBeardo puts milk on his rice krispies, they shut the fuck up
Crop circles are SmartyBeardos way of telling corn it needs to sit its ass down
SmartyBeardo can touch MC Hammer
SmartyBeardo does not get frostbite, SmartyBeardo bites frost

Pretty damned accurate Lloyd, but I'm lactose intolerant. The Tito's shuts down the Rice Krispies.

QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Aug 8 2011, 09:40 AM) *
I think my post contained my thoughts on that question. IF Floyd is making EVERYONE on his bill take tests, for the purpose of cascading this stance through the different tiers of boxing then fair enough. But id need to see evidence of that before I accept that Floyds testing stance is anything more than posturing bullshit, and in the worst case, a way out of fighting you know who.

Sorry Lloyd, but if this issue has been a way out of the fight for anyone it is Team QuackMeow.
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post Aug 8 2011, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Aug 8 2011, 08:45 PM) *
That's more like it.

You're "against any big name fighter/figure getting jerked out of what they are truly worth." Much better than you're "scared" that poor Pac isn't getting enough 10's of millions of dollars to amount to more than crumbs.

That said, what is Pac "truly worth." Do you have any idea? And, how did he become worth that amount of crumbs? Don't start with the "he's the one risking his life in there bullshit." He would still be risking his life in the ring in some PI shithole for bananas and peanuts if a keen eyed, ruthless promoter had not spotted his potential and got him together with a decent trainer that could take him to the next level. I cap on Dusty the Organ Grinder constantly for being the prick that he is but Pac would not be the phenom he became without the promotion, management and training afforded by a company like TopWank.

The contracts are where the rubber meets the road. If the contracts were violated or altered then Pac deserves his due. He seems to have taken steps to seize greater control of his business, beginning with managing his brand, the current contractual relationships and their potential.

Talent is worth what is negotiated, period. This isn't RomperFuckinRoom. This is business. There are winners and there are losers. If you don't have the ability or resources to negotiate a decent contract, you lose. Yes, fighters are taken advantage of often but that does not mean that they aren't getting what they are worth. It just means they got beaten at the negotiating table.

I've been on both sides of that table. You learn or you get fucked. That's life in this reality. If that scares you . . . well, you aren't going to be part of the solution.

As far as your posts go, you keep posting dumb assed shit like you are "scared" that Pac aint getting enough 10s of millions of dollars of "crumbs" and I'll keep "clockin" them.

And dudes that make a point of talking about how many women are interested in their dumb assed comments generally spend their time fucking themselves. Don't short out your digital device there cshel.


The very idea that Pac might not be getting as many 10s of millions of dollars as he deserves made my hair fall out, Ollie. It is just terrifying, I'm tellin' ya.


Pretty damned accurate Lloyd, but I'm lactose intolerant. The Tito's shuts down the Rice Krispies.


Sorry Lloyd, but if this issue has been a way out of the fight for anyone it is Team QuackMeow.


Damn Beardo! Just when I almost wrote you off as a narrow-minded, internet warrior...you managed to exhibit credible intellect and curb my perception of who SmartyBeardo is. Oh yeah...the women still love me man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/taunt.gif)

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- Allmenjoi8   Arum claims that there no Issues concerning May&Pac Fight   Aug 4 2011, 09:44 AM
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- - Allmenjoi8   my bad. Its is on boxingscene.com   Aug 4 2011, 11:02 AM
- - caneman   pfffft   Aug 4 2011, 12:04 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   Pacquiao supposedly told Moy Lainez that the Maywe...   Aug 4 2011, 12:10 PM
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