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> Showtime:Agbeko vs. Mares@ 10PM(ET)/7PM(PT) SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later, Update: No Suspention For Mora-But No Main Events in Future
Jack 1000
post Aug 13 2011, 04:21 PM
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For all on-going and post fight comments to tonight's Agbeko-Perez fight. Keep everything in this thread.

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post Aug 15 2011, 04:31 PM
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Post-Fight Report:

Nevada Executive Director Keth Kitzer says that "Mora will not be suspended, but will have to build himself up by working only undercard fights in the future." Story here:

http://blogs.bettor.com/Keith-Kizer-I-will...ing-news-a91087

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post Aug 15 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 15 2011, 05:31 PM) *
Post-Fight Report:

Nevada Executive Director Keth Kitzer says that "Mora will not be suspended, but will have to build himself up by working only undercard fights in the future." Story here:

http://blogs.bettor.com/Keith-Kizer-I-will...ing-news-a91087

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with shit like this i can't blame people for turning away from boxing. i bet if Mares was getting hit like that and nothing happened Mora would be suspended right now. but that wouldn't have happened because Agbeko would have been DQed after the 15th low blow.
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post Aug 15 2011, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 15 2011, 05:36 PM) *
with shit like this i can't blame people for turning away from boxing. i bet if Mares was getting hit like that and nothing happened Mora would be suspended right now. but that wouldn't have happened because Agbeko would have been DQed after the 15th low blow.


You bet,

You know I hate Delahoya's company. Golden Boy Promotions the more I think about this. Russell Mora began his career doing some fights in New Mexico and over time had no serious incidents until he was criticized for not stopping the Montiel-Donaire fight. I think Mora might have a favorable bias to Delahoya's fighters. And it could also be that Agbeko, who doesn't have a big marquee name, although is a very, very good fighter, doesn't have the kind of fan-base and promotional power, even with Don King at the helm. Don is losing his influence because of health and age. Oscar and Richard Schaefer from his company are probably going to take over boxing when Arum and King die. They will be the new power players for big fights and fighters.

And since this fight gave Golden Boy Promotions their first world champion for their stable, that is very very important to them. Look past the Golden Grin. Oscar's doing the same things that people accuse Arum of doing. Playing to the Hispanic and Mexican population by carefully matching his fighters against guys from his own stable whenever possible. Working with Don had to be, a challenge, because Oscar would have no promotional ties to Agbeko had he won, and I don't think Oscar would just give promotional rights for Mares to King

Is Mora incompetent? Well, no because he purposely and deliberately was NOT penalizing Mares on those low blows in every round. If Mora was incompetent he would be missing low blow sequences in other fights he has worked. That has not been the case, Mora has been quick to penalize in other fights. And you can't just say that Mora had a bad night because too many despicable things happened in his officiating. This goes way beyond a bad night.

Do you think Mora just hated Agbeko? Could this be a racial issue? Does Joseph have any legal recourse here? Or do we have to have more evidence? The evidence although circumstantial shows something nasty was up with that fight. Just not sure what it was. I have heard accusations of of incompetence, bribery, and racial bias. This is a very shameful situation for boxing and I really feel bad for Mr. Agbeko.

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- Jack 1000   Showtime:Agbeko vs. Mares@ 10PM(ET)/7PM(PT) SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later   Aug 13 2011, 04:21 PM
- - cshel86   Damn Im wondering if they are going to bullshit al...   Aug 13 2011, 09:17 PM
- - cshel86   Mares is workin' quick as hell!   Aug 13 2011, 09:30 PM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   Mares has an uncanny ability to make you square up...   Aug 13 2011, 09:32 PM
- - leonthegee   This ref sucks. How many times is he gonna let Mar...   Aug 13 2011, 09:36 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (leonthegee @ Aug 13 2011, 10:36 PM...   Aug 13 2011, 09:39 PM
- - cshel86   Nasty right hand by Agbeko! Oooh shit!...   Aug 13 2011, 09:43 PM
- - caneman   Mares is going a bit low but this is heating up bi...   Aug 13 2011, 09:44 PM
- - cshel86   Im convinced that this ref is being paid under the...   Aug 13 2011, 10:03 PM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   Worst ref in a long time.   Aug 13 2011, 10:13 PM
- - Box in Hand   Horrible Ref job, worst I have seen in a very very...   Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
- - caneman   Really bad ref...how could he not see all those lo...   Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
- - HaydelHammer   I would have told my fighter to go out there the e...   Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Aug 13 2011, 11:19 ...   Aug 13 2011, 10:24 PM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 13 2011, 11:24 PM...   Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
- - HaydelHammer   damn jim grey went hard. LOL   Aug 13 2011, 10:21 PM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   Jim Grey actually seemed like the good guy for onc...   Aug 13 2011, 10:23 PM
- - HaydelHammer   lmao this mares guy is completely delusional.   Aug 13 2011, 10:24 PM
- - caneman   With the low blows and a good ref, I think that fi...   Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
- - Box in Hand   Not all that impressed with Mares. He can't e...   Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
- - cshel86   Mares is shit! The ref was shit as well, and h...   Aug 13 2011, 10:28 PM
- - AussieLad   Should be interesting to see if the Darchinyan rem...   Aug 13 2011, 10:31 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (AussieLad @ Aug 13 2011, 11:31 PM)...   Aug 13 2011, 10:35 PM
- - checkHook   CotDamn the Fix is in.   Aug 13 2011, 10:31 PM
- - BigG   I have to watch it again but I thought Mares proba...   Aug 13 2011, 10:37 PM
- - Aware   Wait! Why wasn't/isn't anybody complai...   Aug 13 2011, 10:38 PM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 13 2011, 11:38 PM) Wai...   Aug 13 2011, 10:45 PM
- - caneman   lolz, I don't know about Mares being shit, tha...   Aug 13 2011, 10:52 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (BigG @ Aug 13 2011, 10:37 PM) I ha...   Aug 13 2011, 10:54 PM
- - Jack 1000   Worst ref job I have seen in many years! I ei...   Aug 14 2011, 01:25 AM
- - SENTRAL   One of the most incompetent refereeing displays I ...   Aug 14 2011, 02:00 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (SENTRAL @ Aug 14 2011, 02:00 AM) O...   Aug 14 2011, 03:05 AM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   It's been well documented that in big fights, ...   Aug 14 2011, 08:26 AM
- - Hops   I think Arum's involved in this one.   Aug 14 2011, 08:38 AM
- - HaydelHammer   lmao...watch the last low blow in the 11th ...how ...   Aug 14 2011, 09:28 AM
- - JONdaCON817   i would of had this fight even if it wasnt for the...   Aug 14 2011, 10:58 AM
- - kidbazooka1   Horrible job by Mora. The fight went pretty much ...   Aug 14 2011, 11:41 AM
- - wolterb   agbeko kept his cool, seemed like, throughout the ...   Aug 14 2011, 12:08 PM
- - Jack 1000   I think Mora may have had several vendettas agains...   Aug 14 2011, 03:56 PM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTE That ref should be fired... he obviously was...   Aug 14 2011, 04:02 PM
- - BigG   I dont remember thinking Mares being dirty in the ...   Aug 14 2011, 11:31 PM
|- - AussieLad   QUOTE (BigG @ Aug 15 2011, 04:31 AM) I do...   Aug 15 2011, 02:28 AM
- - BigG   Round 1: Mares 10-8 Round 2: Mares 10-9 Round 3: M...   Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM
- - AussieLad   He's a fucking nut crackin machine In fact th...   Aug 15 2011, 03:00 AM
- - sduck   I recorded it and finally got to watch it. I was i...   Aug 15 2011, 09:47 AM
|- - happygocampy   The fight was really no shock at all, this type of...   Aug 15 2011, 12:39 PM
- - Jack 1000   Post-Fight Report: Nevada Executive Director Keth...   Aug 15 2011, 04:31 PM
- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 15 2011, 05:31 PM)...   Aug 15 2011, 05:36 PM
- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 15 2011, 05:36 PM...   Aug 15 2011, 11:19 PM


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