Aug 13 2011, 04:21 PM
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The Consultant Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,835 Joined: 2-December 02 Member No.: 14 |
For all on-going and post fight comments to tonight's Agbeko-Perez fight. Keep everything in this thread.
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Aug 14 2011, 02:00 AM
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Super Flyweight Group: Team BU Posts: 248 Joined: 15-May 10 Member No.: 10,900 |
One of the most incompetent refereeing displays I have ever seen and there is absolutely no doubt in my eyes - he was quite simply paid off. This is corruption of the highest order, I honestly could not believe what I was seeing. Ridiculous, disgusting, disgraceful and quite simply there absolutely HAS to be an investigation into this. This ref, he's the same guy who deducted two points from Katsidis WITHOUT warning. He ruined the fight, ruined my night and he tainted the sport of boxing. He MUST NEVER referee a fight again after this despicable show of incompetence. And to think I was building this fight up, looking forward to a fight of the year candidate and we all end up being robbed by the 3rd man. Disgusting. Jim Gray took no prisoners!
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Aug 14 2011, 03:05 AM
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The Consultant Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,835 Joined: 2-December 02 Member No.: 14 |
One of the most incompetent refereeing displays I have ever seen and there is absolutely no doubt in my eyes - he was quite simply paid off. This is corruption of the highest order, I honestly could not believe what I was seeing. Ridiculous, disgusting, disgraceful and quite simply there absolutely HAS to be an investigation into this. This ref, he's the same guy who deducted two points from Katsidis WITHOUT warning. He ruined the fight, ruined my night and he tainted the sport of boxing. He MUST NEVER referee a fight again after this despicable show of incompetence. And to think I was building this fight up, looking forward to a fight of the year candidate and we all end up being robbed by the 3rd man. Disgusting. Jim Gray took no prisoners! Let's talk about the corruption theory, Nobody likes to do that, but this was reminiscent of Roger Tillerman's officiating in the Ottke-Reid fight. That's another spectacle you have to see to believe. The single most corrupt fight that I ever saw where everyone appeared to be corrupt was Coggi-Gonzalez I. However, I don't want to indulge too much into those fights, because this was a case were the judging was good, going into the fight was good, the fighters did what they had to do in giving us a decent fight. But everything was shit on and fucked up by Russell Mora as ref. I will look into this more tomorrow. but I do not recall other controversies with him. But yea Sentral, you make a great point about Katsidis getting penalized by the same ref WITHOUT WARNING. Good call. If there is corruption, who is actually doing it and how are they doing it? Is it Delahoya, his company, the WBC, which has an overt favorable bias toward Mexican and Latin American fighters with their ratings and titles. If this is going on, they have to be doing it well enough to not get caught. What's the explanation, and who would be saying, "Oh, Russell, btw, we got a potential hot Mexican star here in Mares, whatever you do, DON'T penalize him and there might be something in it for you." Or in the case of Mora, is it not corruption, but sheer incompetence and stupidity? It's different because incompetence and stupidity is not a criminal offense, and without proof of an on the take situation, they won't reverse the decision to a no-contest. All the IBF can do is order a rematch. Or in the case of Mora, could it be that Mora just felt compelled to protect Mares, because Agbeko is not the big money making fighter? It should be noted that Mora DOES NOT have the experience of other big time Nevada refs. Let it be known however, that the shit he pulled tonight makes Joe Cortez and Jay Nady look like saints!!!! I mean, the couple of controversies that they had were NOTHING compared to this. Therefore if there was corruption in the fight, who paid off Mora, and why? Jack |
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Jack 1000 Showtime:Agbeko vs. Mares@ 10PM(ET)/7PM(PT) SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later Aug 13 2011, 04:21 PM
cshel86 Damn Im wondering if they are going to bullshit al... Aug 13 2011, 09:17 PM
cshel86 Mares is workin' quick as hell! Aug 13 2011, 09:30 PM
Mean Mister Mustard Mares has an uncanny ability to make you square up... Aug 13 2011, 09:32 PM
leonthegee This ref sucks. How many times is he gonna let Mar... Aug 13 2011, 09:36 PM
cshel86 QUOTE (leonthegee @ Aug 13 2011, 10:36 PM... Aug 13 2011, 09:39 PM
cshel86 Nasty right hand by Agbeko! Oooh shit!... Aug 13 2011, 09:43 PM
caneman Mares is going a bit low but this is heating up bi... Aug 13 2011, 09:44 PM
cshel86 Im convinced that this ref is being paid under the... Aug 13 2011, 10:03 PM
Mean Mister Mustard Worst ref in a long time. Aug 13 2011, 10:13 PM
Box in Hand Horrible Ref job, worst I have seen in a very very... Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
caneman Really bad ref...how could he not see all those lo... Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
HaydelHammer I would have told my fighter to go out there the e... Aug 13 2011, 10:19 PM
gravytrain QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Aug 13 2011, 11:19 ... Aug 13 2011, 10:24 PM
HaydelHammer QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 13 2011, 11:24 PM... Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
HaydelHammer damn jim grey went hard. LOL Aug 13 2011, 10:21 PM
Mean Mister Mustard Jim Grey actually seemed like the good guy for onc... Aug 13 2011, 10:23 PM
HaydelHammer lmao this mares guy is completely delusional. Aug 13 2011, 10:24 PM
caneman With the low blows and a good ref, I think that fi... Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
Box in Hand Not all that impressed with Mares. He can't e... Aug 13 2011, 10:26 PM
cshel86 Mares is shit! The ref was shit as well, and h... Aug 13 2011, 10:28 PM
AussieLad Should be interesting to see if the Darchinyan rem... Aug 13 2011, 10:31 PM
gravytrain QUOTE (AussieLad @ Aug 13 2011, 11:31 PM)... Aug 13 2011, 10:35 PM
checkHook CotDamn the Fix is in. Aug 13 2011, 10:31 PM
BigG I have to watch it again but I thought Mares proba... Aug 13 2011, 10:37 PM
Aware Wait! Why wasn't/isn't anybody complai... Aug 13 2011, 10:38 PM
HaydelHammer QUOTE (Aware @ Aug 13 2011, 11:38 PM) Wai... Aug 13 2011, 10:45 PM
caneman lolz, I don't know about Mares being shit, tha... Aug 13 2011, 10:52 PM
caneman QUOTE (BigG @ Aug 13 2011, 10:37 PM) I ha... Aug 13 2011, 10:54 PM
Jack 1000 Worst ref job I have seen in many years! I ei... Aug 14 2011, 01:25 AM
Mean Mister Mustard It's been well documented that in big fights, ... Aug 14 2011, 08:26 AM
Hops I think Arum's involved in this one. Aug 14 2011, 08:38 AM
HaydelHammer lmao...watch the last low blow in the 11th ...how ... Aug 14 2011, 09:28 AM
JONdaCON817 i would of had this fight even if it wasnt for the... Aug 14 2011, 10:58 AM
kidbazooka1 Horrible job by Mora.
The fight went pretty much ... Aug 14 2011, 11:41 AM
wolterb agbeko kept his cool, seemed like, throughout the ... Aug 14 2011, 12:08 PM
Jack 1000 I think Mora may have had several vendettas agains... Aug 14 2011, 03:56 PM
Jack 1000 QUOTE That ref should be fired... he obviously was... Aug 14 2011, 04:02 PM
BigG I dont remember thinking Mares being dirty in the ... Aug 14 2011, 11:31 PM
AussieLad QUOTE (BigG @ Aug 15 2011, 04:31 AM) I do... Aug 15 2011, 02:28 AM
BigG Round 1: Mares 10-8
Round 2: Mares 10-9
Round 3: M... Aug 15 2011, 12:19 AM
AussieLad He's a fucking nut crackin machine
In fact th... Aug 15 2011, 03:00 AM
sduck I recorded it and finally got to watch it. I was i... Aug 15 2011, 09:47 AM
happygocampy The fight was really no shock at all, this type of... Aug 15 2011, 12:39 PM
Jack 1000 Post-Fight Report:
Nevada Executive Director Keth... Aug 15 2011, 04:31 PM
gravytrain QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 15 2011, 05:31 PM)... Aug 15 2011, 05:36 PM
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