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riddick
post Aug 16 2011, 09:36 AM
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Mayweather or Pacquiao?What you think about it.Remember BWAA named Pacquiao before his fights versus Margarito and Mosley.
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post Aug 17 2011, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE (SENTRAL @ Aug 17 2011, 10:25 AM) *
It is rather sad how Mayweather seems to have been given a pass for what is quite frankly a very poor resume post 2004.  Yes, I think we all agree Mayweather is a fantastically talented exponent of the noble art but in terms of quality of opposition he falls way behind most, if not all, of the great fighters some of his fans believe he is better than.

He has sadly managed to hypnotize the foolish into believing he is a ring legend but his inactivity, cherry picking and highly unimpressive resume begs to differ by quite some margin.  I won't deny that he is a far more formidable boxer than his resume suggests but in this sport if you don't face the best you cannot look back and claim you were the best.  You have to prove it.

His fans give him his dues for taking a big shot from Mosley, who we all know was old and slower than in his prime, and going onto dominate the fight.  Well Vernon Forrest dominated Mosley in a far superior  manner than Floyd managed to do and it was a much better version of Shane back then too.  He barely scraped past another old fighter in De La Hoya and yet he is excused for this.  Ricky Hatton was beaten at 147, a weight Ricky was very ineffective at, and is used as a good opponent whom Floyd defeated.  Ahem, this is the same Ricky Hatton who ALWAYS faced ridicule by fight fans before Floyd beat him.  Once he did are we supposed to be impressed?  Gatti was made for him, a good fighter but never a threat to Mayweather and never a threat to most genuine world class boxers.  Judah?  No, we can't have Judah on a list of the fighters he's beaten and be impressed by it.  The list goes on and on.

Yep, at 130 and 135 Floyd was a delight to watch and actually seemed to be in love with the sport.  He was genuinely exciting, genuinely magnificent to watch.  He perhaps lost the first Castillo fight but made amends in the rematch and everything pointed to him going onto become a modern ring legend.  Then I think he fell out of love with boxing, began to believe he was untouchable and adopted the fake gangsta persona he so badly fails to pull off.  His hip hop friends, his inactivity, his woeful resume post 2004, his diatribe and slanderous comments from both himself and his crazy family, seems to have been bought by the fans who so idolize him.  He is not near to be the greatest at 130, 135, 140, 147 or any CW he decides to take part in.  Nobody can dispute that and I will tear down and rip to pieces ANY poster who claims he is the greatest at any of those weight divisions.  It's become a sickening disease to laud this man as if he is the second
coming of Ray Robinson and I feel his fans need to do some research on the sport of boxing pre-Mayweather so as to educate themselves and stop themselves from looking so abhorrently foolish in the future.



Very good post with solid points IMO! Good work!!!
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- riddick   Who is true boxer of decade (2001-2010)   Aug 16 2011, 09:36 AM
- - riddick   My choice - Mayweather.Ideal boxer.Undefeated.   Aug 16 2011, 09:41 AM
- - Hops   I go with Calzaghe even though he wasn't able ...   Aug 16 2011, 10:04 AM
- - mgrover   bernard hopkins. his losses to jermain taylor and ...   Aug 16 2011, 10:52 AM
- - Allmenjoi8   Mayweather. Look at his fights from 2001 on up. Ju...   Aug 16 2011, 11:22 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 16 2011, 12:22 PM...   Aug 16 2011, 03:24 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 16 2011, 04:24 PM...   Aug 16 2011, 03:40 PM
|- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 16 2011, 03:24 PM...   Aug 16 2011, 09:31 PM
|- - Mean Mister Mustard   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 16 2011, 10:31 PM...   Aug 16 2011, 11:20 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 16 2011, 04:40 PM) H...   Aug 17 2011, 12:03 AM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 17 2011, 12:31 PM...   Aug 17 2011, 06:16 AM
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|- - Method   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Aug 16 2011, 10:31 PM...   Aug 17 2011, 11:06 AM
- - bosco   Mayweather because he's went undefeated and Pa...   Aug 16 2011, 03:21 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   I don't know. It's obviously a contest bet...   Aug 16 2011, 04:06 PM
- - sduck   I'm not sure if this is an actual reward, but ...   Aug 16 2011, 05:11 PM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 16 2011, 05:11 PM) I...   Aug 16 2011, 07:51 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 16 2011,...   Aug 16 2011, 08:05 PM
|- - E.C.LEGEND   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 16 2011, 08:05 PM) I...   Aug 16 2011, 08:48 PM
|- - riddick   QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ Aug 16 2011, 09:48 PM...   Aug 17 2011, 05:00 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (E.C.LEGEND @ Aug 16 2011, 08:48 PM...   Aug 16 2011, 08:50 PM
|- - E.C.LEGEND   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 16 2011, 08:50 PM) H...   Aug 16 2011, 10:03 PM
- - mrchitown   In my mind, it is btw Mayweather & Hopkins. Pa...   Aug 16 2011, 09:47 PM
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- - cshel86   I almost spoke too soon about being happy that thi...   Aug 17 2011, 09:25 AM
- - SENTRAL   It is rather sad how Mayweather seems to have been...   Aug 17 2011, 10:25 AM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (SENTRAL @ Aug 17 2011, 10:25 AM) I...   Aug 17 2011, 03:59 PM
- - Method   2000-2010? Ex. Has all the big names and THEN ...   Aug 17 2011, 10:55 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 17 2011, 11:31 AM)...   Aug 17 2011, 01:26 PM
|- - Method   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 17 2011, 02:26 PM) I...   Aug 17 2011, 04:46 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (caneman @ Aug 17 2011, 01:26 PM) I...   Aug 17 2011, 05:51 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (SENTRAL @ Aug 17 2011, 10:25 AM) I...   Aug 17 2011, 01:27 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 17 2011, 04:46 PM) I ...   Aug 17 2011, 05:05 PM
- - STEVENSKI   There is one man who can settle this debate & ...   Aug 17 2011, 06:09 PM
- - Fitz   Give me Hopkins.   Aug 17 2011, 06:15 PM
- - sduck   Yawn, I don't listen to haters, they're al...   Aug 17 2011, 06:24 PM
|- - Fitz   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 18 2011, 09:24 AM) Sho...   Aug 17 2011, 07:44 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 17 2011, 08:44 PM) Upda...   Aug 17 2011, 09:33 PM
- - Fitz   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 18 2011, 12:33 PM) The...   Aug 18 2011, 12:32 AM
- - MeDatsWho   You guys have to understand Pac wasn't conside...   Aug 18 2011, 01:05 AM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (MeDatsWho @ Aug 18 2011, 02:05 AM)...   Aug 18 2011, 05:39 AM
|- - riddick   Listen to me, if Floyd beat Pac... you critics Flo...   Aug 18 2011, 09:11 AM
||- - lloyd mayflower   QUOTE (riddick @ Aug 18 2011, 03:11 PM) L...   Aug 18 2011, 09:22 AM
||- - riddick   QUOTE (lloyd mayflower @ Aug 18 2011, 10...   Aug 19 2011, 08:05 AM
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- - sduck   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 18 2011, 01:32 AM) Well...   Aug 18 2011, 11:23 AM
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- - Hops   Hahaha! When those witnesses come knockin...   Aug 18 2011, 08:04 PM
- - blackbelt2003   Hmmmm...I guess it depends on what the criteria is...   Aug 19 2011, 12:59 PM


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