IPB  

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
> Where is Boxing Going?, Will the new stars be crowned by default or by way of hard work?
Cshel86
post Aug 22 2011, 12:07 PM
Post #1


"The Meanest Nice Guy"


Group: Moderators
Posts: 9,538
Joined: 11-May 11
From: Wherever Greatness is Bred
Member No.: 12,050



I don't know about the rest of the boxing fans out there, but waiting for two big names to save the sport, is killing it. Some fighters are depending on "The Big Fight" before they start to step on the gas. Whatever happened to "everybody fighting everybody"? I was proud to be a boxing fan in the era of De La Hoya, Trinidad, Vargas, Wright, Forrest, Mosley, Mayorga, Hopkins, Taylor, etc. They all fought each other and convincingly worked their way towards big fights, and gave fans something to talk about.

We now have a nearly failed 140 lb division that was very promising, a shakey Welterweight division (still a lot of money in it though) and inexperienced/relatively unknown fighters trying to cash out by begging for fights with the big name fighters. Again, when the two big names hang 'em up, where will the sport be? Will we be proud to watch fighters who stepped it up and earned the top spot, or will we be stuck with guys who got recognized by default?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
gravytrain
post Aug 22 2011, 01:39 PM
Post #2


Junior Middleweight


Group: Team BU
Posts: 2,498
Joined: 25-July 10
Member No.: 10,970



whatever makes the most sense for promoters is where boxing is going. i think that after Mayweather and Pac are gone the top earner spot will be going to hype jobs that got their career created and never really put the work in. look at a fighter like Alvarez, people say his quality of opposition is going to improve but why do that when he's going to get paid and get dates on HBO anyway? the fans aren't going to do anything, they didn't stop Berto from making a million dollars to fight cans.

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
EAlbian
post Aug 22 2011, 02:52 PM
Post #3


Team BU''s Little Play Thing...LOL


Group: Members
Posts: 580
Joined: 27-May 08
From: Chicago
Member No.: 7,451



QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 22 2011, 01:39 PM) *
whatever makes the most sense for promoters is where boxing is going. i think that after Mayweather and Pac are gone the top earner spot will be going to hype jobs that got their career created and never really put the work in. look at a fighter like Alvarez, people say his quality of opposition is going to improve but why do that when he's going to get paid and get dates on HBO anyway? the fans aren't going to do anything, they didn't stop Berto from making a million dollars to fight cans.


Berto and Alvarez are entirely different animals. Alvarez actually can fill a stadium and sell out shows, Berto was unknown by a lot of casual fans and only got fights on HBO because of Haymon. Greenberg is gone and I'm hoping that with that so are the days of trading HBO boxing dates for securing Lady Gaga and other pop star concerts on HBO.

Alvarez is only 21 and It would be wrong for GBP to rush this kid into a fight that he's not ready for. He has easily 10 years in the game left and had a very limited amateur career, I would hate to see him end up like Vargas.

I think Gomez is a step up for him, he's durable and has some skills(looked pretty good against Sotto-Karras). I'd like to see him in there with someone like Mosley(someone experienced with a name) or even K9 next and then look for the winner of Vanes v Angulo. After those 2 fights i think he's ready for Cotto/Margarito winner.

I think right now GBP has three potential stars to carry the sport after Floyd and Manny(Khan, Ortiz, Alvarez). I think all of them can make for good fights against each other.

If Top Rank and GBP are really serious about matching their fighters(hasn't happened yet, not any of their good crop at least) then I think boxing will be just fine.

If good fighters fight other good fighters the sport can turn itself around. GBP has a good young stable and it seems like they are willing to match their young(er) fighters tough(Guerrero vs Maidana)(Ortiz vs Berto)(Khan vs Maidana)(Deleon vs Broner) and that's what boxing needs.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- cshel86   Where is Boxing Going?   Aug 22 2011, 12:07 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 22 2011, 12:07 PM) I...   Aug 22 2011, 12:13 PM
- - caneman   sorry DP   Aug 22 2011, 12:13 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   Boxing is going the way of the dodo, is where it...   Aug 22 2011, 12:16 PM
|- - jlupi   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 22 2011, 01:16...   Aug 24 2011, 02:46 PM
|- - Eighty88Eight   QUOTE (jlupi @ Aug 24 2011, 03:46 PM) esp...   Aug 24 2011, 03:05 PM
- - cshel86   Yeah these sanctioning bodies are doing what they ...   Aug 22 2011, 12:40 PM
- - PlayaPartner   It is mostly due to Promoters. If a promoter will...   Aug 22 2011, 01:17 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (PlayaPartner @ Aug 22 2011, 02:17 ...   Aug 22 2011, 04:03 PM
- - gravytrain   whatever makes the most sense for promoters is whe...   Aug 22 2011, 01:39 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 22 2011, 01:39 PM...   Aug 22 2011, 02:52 PM
||- - cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 22 2011, 03:52 PM) B...   Aug 22 2011, 04:18 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 22 2011, 02:39 PM...   Aug 22 2011, 04:12 PM
- - gravytrain   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 22 2011, 03:52 PM) B...   Aug 22 2011, 05:27 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 22 2011, 06:27 PM...   Aug 22 2011, 05:43 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 22 2011, 06:43 PM) A...   Aug 22 2011, 05:56 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 22 2011, 06:56 PM...   Aug 22 2011, 06:08 PM
- - checkleft   It's all about what the promoters want, if you...   Aug 22 2011, 05:43 PM
- - Fitz   I agree with what's being said about Alvarez s...   Aug 22 2011, 06:06 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 22 2011, 07:06 PM) I ag...   Aug 22 2011, 06:09 PM
||- - gravytrain   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 22 2011, 07:09 PM) I...   Aug 22 2011, 07:45 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Fitz @ Aug 22 2011, 07:06 PM) I ag...   Aug 22 2011, 07:58 PM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 22 2011, 08:58 PM) Y...   Aug 22 2011, 08:22 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 22 2011,...   Aug 22 2011, 10:14 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 22 2011,...   Aug 22 2011, 10:45 PM
- - STEVENSKI   One thing that people forget is that PBF was a nam...   Aug 22 2011, 06:15 PM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   Boxing is doing OK. People always worry about what...   Aug 22 2011, 06:31 PM
- - Jack 1000   With Mayweather and Pacquiao likely to stay in box...   Aug 22 2011, 11:14 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 23 2011, 12:14 AM)...   Aug 23 2011, 04:36 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 23 2011, 12:14 AM)...   Aug 23 2011, 04:50 PM
- - and the NEW   I'm not sure where the lack of stars are, let...   Aug 23 2011, 09:47 PM
- - daprofessor   sad watching all the chicken littles and sheeple w...   Aug 24 2011, 02:15 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 24 2011, 03:15 P...   Aug 24 2011, 02:36 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 24 2011, 03:36 PM) B...   Aug 24 2011, 04:43 PM
- - jlupi   tim bradley can't even fill his jock strap...   Aug 24 2011, 04:15 PM
|- - Eighty88Eight   QUOTE (jlupi @ Aug 24 2011, 05:15 PM) tim...   Aug 24 2011, 04:24 PM
- - Method   I think HBO has been trying to hype up new fighter...   Aug 24 2011, 05:14 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 24 2011, 06:14 PM) I ...   Aug 24 2011, 05:45 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 24 2011, 06:45 PM) I...   Aug 24 2011, 06:48 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 24 2011, 07:48 P...   Aug 25 2011, 12:20 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 25 2011, 01:20 PM) Y...   Aug 25 2011, 06:52 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 25 2011, 06:52 P...   Aug 25 2011, 10:03 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Aug 25 2011, 11:03 PM) h...   Aug 26 2011, 02:35 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 26 2011, 02:35 P...   Aug 26 2011, 04:22 PM
- - BoxingFan86   I'm too ashamed to reveal the answer, so y...   Aug 25 2011, 12:00 PM
- - gravytrain   HBO has wasted money on fights and fighters. Berto...   Aug 25 2011, 10:13 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 25 2011, 11:13 PM...   Aug 26 2011, 10:28 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 25 2011, 11:13 PM...   Aug 26 2011, 02:37 PM
- - cshel86   I threatened to cancel my cable with my last provi...   Aug 26 2011, 09:43 AM
- - Eighty88Eight   it's sad how small boxing has become outside o...   Aug 26 2011, 09:53 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 26 2011, 10:53...   Aug 26 2011, 02:43 PM
||- - gravytrain   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 26 2011, 03:37 P...   Aug 26 2011, 04:29 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 26 2011, 09:53...   Aug 26 2011, 04:29 PM
- - Seek   Of the fights left this year that i'm interest...   Aug 26 2011, 11:46 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 23rd May 2013 - 05:50 PM