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Jack 1000
post Aug 25 2011, 02:33 PM
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A pretty good card considering the crap we have been getting. Easy to call the winners I think. However, the losers might do a little better than expected.

Vargas vs. Lopez: Vargas by decision. Lopez may have his moments, but if rounds are close, the "O' record of Vargas will be taken into consideration by the judges.

Morales vs. Matthysse: Morales by Split and perhaps controversial decision. Lucas just can't get a break, and with the WBC bending over backwards to get Erik another title, I think Matthysee almost needs a KO to win. I think the best thing that Matthysse gets out of this fight on the cards is a draw. (And in reality, Lucas should have won by about 9-3.) Another negative is that in his fighting style, sometimes he is not busy enough.


Alvarez vs. Gomez: Mismatch and beat down Alvarez TKO 7

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post Aug 26 2011, 01:56 PM
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i don't know vargas, so i can't say

Mathysse by UD

Alvarez by KO

and after seeing Ortiz-Berto again, I say Mayweather possibly by KO.
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post Aug 26 2011, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 26 2011, 02:56 PM) *
i don't know vargas, so i can't say

Mathysse by UD


Alvarez by KO

and after seeing Ortiz-Berto again, I say Mayweather possibly by KO.

Did you see my post earlier? Let's not forget how Matthysse screws himself. He isn't busy enough in those first 4-5 rounds, then he puts in work in the middle rounds, only to leave the last couple of rounds in the air for anybody to walk away with. This bout is being sanctioned by the WBC (who happens to show Mexican fighters favortism), and the well-known Mexican fighter is supposed to win on Mexican Independence weekend. Matthysse by TKO, or another robbery is progress as we speak.
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post Aug 26 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:41 PM) *
Did you see my post earlier? Let's not forget how Matthysse screws himself. He isn't busy enough in those first 4-5 rounds, then he puts in work in the middle rounds, only to leave the last couple of rounds in the air for anybody to walk away with. This bout is being sanctioned by the WBC (who happens to show Mexican fighters favoritism), and the well-known Mexican fighter is supposed to win on Mexican Independence weekend. Matthysse by TKO, or another robbery is progress as we speak.


+1

And really surprised that others don't see it this way:

1.) Mexican Independence Day

2.) A Golden Boy Promotion that makes big $$$ off of the Mexican/Hispanic Community

3.) The WBC going out of their way in catering to Morales by giving him this shot in the first place. Yes, this is better Barrios, but the writing's on the wall,

4.) Lucus not busy enough and shooting himself in the foot by fighting that way.

5.) This has Dalby Shirley and Gale Van Hoy type judging written all over it. The third judge will probably be fair. But all you need is the majority going a certain way. UNLESS with the recent terrible decisions in recent fights and the stench of Russell Mora's officiating in Mares-Agbeko, you might think that the scales might bend somewhat towards justice. Just not enough. Issues 1-3 overpower all else.

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post Aug 26 2011, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 27 2011, 12:39 AM) *
+1

And really surprised that others don't see it this way:

1.) Mexican Independence Day

2.) A Golden Boy Promotion that makes big $$$ off of the Mexican/Hispanic Community

3.) The WBC going out of their way in catering to Morales by giving him this shot in the first place. Yes, this is better Barrios, but the writing's on the wall,

4.) Lucus not busy enough and shooting himself in the foot by fighting that way.

5.) This has Dalby Shirley and Gale Van Hoy type judging written all over it. The third judge will probably be fair. But all you need is the majority going a certain way. UNLESS with the recent terrible decisions in recent fights and the stench of Russell Mora's officiating in Mares-Agbeko, you might think that the scales might bend somewhat towards justice. Just not enough. Issues 1-3 overpower all else.

Jack


NSAC said Mora would get experience reffing undercard fights. maybe Morales vs Matthysse is one of the undercard fights lol.
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- Jack 1000   Preview and Discussion of Mayweather-Ortiz Undercard   Aug 25 2011, 02:33 PM
- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 25 2011, 03:33 PM)...   Aug 25 2011, 02:39 PM
- - lloyd mayflower   Dont know much about Vargas, but il stick my neck ...   Aug 25 2011, 02:44 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   i just hope all the favorites lose by devastating ...   Aug 25 2011, 06:52 PM
- - cshel86   Vargas by close decision or late stoppage: Josesit...   Aug 26 2011, 09:31 AM
- - Eighty88Eight   i don't know vargas, so i can't say Mathy...   Aug 26 2011, 01:56 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 26 2011, 02:56...   Aug 26 2011, 08:41 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Aug 26 2011, 08:41 PM) D...   Aug 26 2011, 11:39 PM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 27 2011, 12:39 AM)...   Aug 26 2011, 11:58 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (gravytrain @ Aug 26 2011, 11:58 PM...   Aug 27 2011, 12:53 AM
|- - gravytrain   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Aug 27 2011, 01:53 AM)...   Aug 27 2011, 06:37 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   i dont agree, if matthyse wins clearly, i don...   Aug 27 2011, 12:55 AM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Aug 27 2011, 01:55...   Aug 27 2011, 02:33 PM
- - Big Slim Sweet   I don't know Vargas, but if he's Mayweathe...   Aug 27 2011, 01:28 AM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Big Slim Sweet @ Aug 27 2011, 02:2...   Aug 27 2011, 02:21 PM
- - Seek   Vargas vs Lopez - Only seen Vargas fight once but ...   Aug 27 2011, 10:11 AM
- - cshel86   Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that if Gomez does ge...   Aug 27 2011, 02:36 PM
- - sduck   Never seen Vargas or Lopez fight. Matthysse will ...   Aug 27 2011, 04:39 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 27 2011, 04:39 PM) Nev...   Aug 27 2011, 06:01 PM
- - Jack 1000   Some bad news (according to Fightnews) Lucas Matt...   Sep 8 2011, 07:20 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Sep 8 2011, 08:20 PM) ...   Sep 8 2011, 07:32 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (cshel86 @ Sep 8 2011, 07:32 PM) Ma...   Sep 8 2011, 08:09 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:09 PM) ...   Sep 8 2011, 10:06 PM
- - checkleft   That would probably be better than the mathysse mo...   Sep 9 2011, 01:13 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 9 2011, 01:13 AM) ...   Sep 9 2011, 03:05 AM
- - Big Slim Sweet   Maidana apparently already was offered the fight a...   Sep 9 2011, 01:44 PM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (Big Slim Sweet @ Sep 9 2011, 02:44...   Sep 9 2011, 09:13 PM
- - Jack 1000   Morales will now be fighting for the world champio...   Sep 11 2011, 11:46 PM
- - SmartyBeardo   Jessie Vargas 16(9)-0 v Josesito Lopez 29(17)-3 ju...   Sep 15 2011, 10:07 PM
- - Eighty88Eight   an ugly premonition tells me that this is going to...   Sep 15 2011, 10:37 PM
- - cshel86   QUOTE (Eighty88Eight @ Sep 15 2011, 11:37...   Sep 15 2011, 11:20 PM


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