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post Aug 27 2011, 01:14 AM
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Ok, so how do you compare the careers between these fighters?

1. Judah-Spinks
2. De La Hoya-Mosley
3. Cotto-Vargas
4. Hamed-Hatton

Judah-Spinks
Both fighters were undisputed welter weight champions, and both split fights 1-1 between each other, though that has been Judah's only key career win. Spinks at least still has a decent win against Mayorga which is already better than anything else Zab has done. He has picked up a few more decent wins along the way.
Judah had the more potential, and more upside to him, but didn't live up to it. At this stage, I think Spinks has had the better career.

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post Aug 27 2011, 04:19 PM
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Judah-Spinks - I'm gonna have to give it to Judah for the fact that Judah fought more of the top opposition, went longer when they were both undefeated, and had a more impressive victory over Spinks than Spinks had over him.

De La Hoya-Mosley - I don't understand how anyone can give this to De La Hoya... DLH beat a arguably washed up Whitaker and a washed up JCC? Mosley beat Oscar twice and fought more of the top opposition. But then again if we're referring to overall Career, that would also include Weight Transitioning, Money, Titles fights and titles earned... In which DLH gains some more points, so it would made it closer in comparison... I will still give it Mosley, PED or not, he beat Oscar twice.

Cotto-Vargas - hands down to Cotto. Cotto went longer undefeated, beat and fought more quality fighters, made more weight transitions, had more title fights, earned more titles, and is still fighting.

Hamed-Hatton - I'm gonna have to go with Ricky Hatton. Both beat and lost to top competitors. But Hatton went longer undefeated, had more title fights, more money fights, and had a longer career. Hamed shouldn't of retired after losing his biggest fight. Hatton kept on fighting after losing his, even though it ended up retiring him.

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QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 28 2011, 09:19 AM) *
Cotto-Vargas - hands down to Cotto. Cotto went longer undefeated, beat and fought more quality fighters, made more weight transitions, had more title fights, earned more titles, and is still fighting.


I can't argue anyone putting Cotto before Vargas, as I said it was a toss-up for me, but the bolded part I take a little issue with. I'm not sure anyone on Cotto's resume of fighters faced reads like Trinidad, Wright, De la Hoya and Quartey. All pretty much prime versions of themselves as well.

I don't know maybe I'm missing something here but I think that foursome is way better than anything Cotto faced which was a prime Pac and a slightly past his peak Molsey.

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- Fitz   Comparing careers 1   Aug 27 2011, 01:14 AM
- - STEVENSKI   Rating them I have Spinks DLH Cotto Hatton   Aug 27 2011, 02:14 AM
- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   Spinks. I thought he actually beat Taylor. DLH. ...   Aug 27 2011, 02:45 AM
|- - TheFonz   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 27 2011,...   Aug 27 2011, 06:53 AM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (TheFonz @ Aug 27 2011, 11:53 PM) M...   Aug 27 2011, 07:29 AM
||- - Method   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 27 2011,...   Aug 27 2011, 07:48 AM
||- - and the NEW   QUOTE (Method @ Aug 27 2011, 12:48 PM) Wi...   Aug 29 2011, 12:42 AM
|- - zucrates   QUOTE (TheFonz @ Aug 27 2011, 07:53 AM) M...   Aug 27 2011, 12:34 PM
|- - zucrates   QUOTE (zucrates @ Aug 27 2011, 01:34 PM) ...   Aug 27 2011, 12:45 PM
- - BigG   Naz was better than Hatton for sure. You could say...   Aug 27 2011, 08:08 AM
- - Mean Mister Mustard   I say Spinks because he did beat Judah and Mayorga...   Aug 27 2011, 10:41 AM
- - Fitz   I would probably lean slightly towards DLH, but I ...   Aug 27 2011, 10:59 AM
- - cshel86   De La Hoya/Mosley: I give this to De La Hoya any d...   Aug 27 2011, 11:49 AM
- - JONdaCON817   DLH.. Spinks.. Cotto.. Prince Naseem..   Aug 27 2011, 02:41 PM
- - sduck   Judah-Spinks - I'm gonna have to give it to Ju...   Aug 27 2011, 04:19 PM
|- - Mean Mister Mustard   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 27 2011, 05:19 PM) Jud...   Aug 27 2011, 05:01 PM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (sduck @ Aug 28 2011, 09:19 AM) Cot...   Aug 27 2011, 06:07 PM
|- - and the NEW   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 27 2011,...   Aug 29 2011, 02:17 AM
|- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (and the NEW @ Aug 29 2011, 07:17 P...   Aug 29 2011, 04:53 AM
|- - STEVENSKI   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 29 2011,...   Aug 29 2011, 05:09 AM
||- - The Ollie Reed Fan Club   QUOTE (STEVENSKI @ Aug 29 2011, 10:09 PM)...   Aug 29 2011, 05:11 AM
|- - cshel86   QUOTE (The Ollie Reed Fan Club @ Aug 29 2011,...   Aug 29 2011, 10:21 AM
- - Fitz   Vargas may have fought tougher competition, but I ...   Aug 29 2011, 02:21 AM
- - Fitz   ATN, just bumped the football thread in general. Y...   Aug 29 2011, 02:26 AM
- - and the NEW   Good thread also Fitz. These are all very close f...   Aug 29 2011, 02:27 AM
- - Eighty88Eight   Cotto is the kinda guy Tito would have got knocked...   Aug 29 2011, 08:16 AM
- - cshel86   Man I watched Trinidad/Vargas the other night, and...   Aug 29 2011, 09:15 AM
- - Nay_Sayer   Sorry people but there is no way in hell you can r...   Aug 29 2011, 12:26 PM
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|- - Nay_Sayer   QUOTE (blackbelt2003 @ Aug 29 2011, 12:48...   Aug 29 2011, 03:06 PM
- - Big Slim Sweet   I've got Mosley over Oscar pretty clearly, and...   Aug 31 2011, 10:44 AM
- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Aug 29 2011, 01:06 PM)...   Aug 31 2011, 10:03 PM
- - and the NEW   Yep, Shane went and fought Wink and Forrest. DL...   Sep 1 2011, 12:26 AM
|- - Nay_Sayer   QUOTE (and the NEW @ Sep 1 2011, 12:26 AM...   Sep 1 2011, 01:33 AM
|- - and the NEW   QUOTE (Nay_Sayer @ Sep 1 2011, 06:33 AM) ...   Sep 2 2011, 12:32 AM
- - Big Slim Sweet   QUOTE (SmartyBeardo @ Aug 31 2011, 10:03 ...   Sep 1 2011, 12:53 AM
|- - SmartyBeardo   QUOTE (Big Slim Sweet @ Aug 31 2011, 10:5...   Sep 1 2011, 07:32 AM
- - sduck   Both Oscar and Shane took some hard fights. But I ...   Sep 1 2011, 03:32 AM


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