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Ok, so how do you compare the careers between these fighters?

1. Judah-Spinks
2. De La Hoya-Mosley
3. Cotto-Vargas
4. Hamed-Hatton

Judah-Spinks
Both fighters were undisputed welter weight champions, and both split fights 1-1 between each other, though that has been Judah's only key career win. Spinks at least still has a decent win against Mayorga which is already better than anything else Zab has done. He has picked up a few more decent wins along the way.
Judah had the more potential, and more upside to him, but didn't live up to it. At this stage, I think Spinks has had the better career.

[sduck]

Judah-Spinks - I'm gonna have to give it to Judah for the fact that Judah fought more of the top opposition, went longer when they were both undefeated, and had a more impressive victory over Spinks than Spinks had over him.

De La Hoya-Mosley - I don't understand how anyone can give this to De La Hoya... DLH beat a arguably washed up Whitaker and a washed up JCC? Mosley beat Oscar twice and fought more of the top opposition. But then again if we're referring to overall Career, that would also include Weight Transitioning, Money, Titles fights and titles earned... In which DLH gains some more points, so it would made it closer in comparison... I will still give it Mosley, PED or not, he beat Oscar twice.

Cotto-Vargas - hands down to Cotto. Cotto went longer undefeated, beat and fought more quality fighters, made more weight transitions, had more title fights, earned more titles, and is still fighting.

Hamed-Hatton - I'm gonna have to go with Ricky Hatton. Both beat and lost to top competitors. But Hatton went longer undefeated, had more title fights, more money fights, and had a longer career. Hamed shouldn't of retired after losing his biggest fight. Hatton kept on fighting after losing his, even though it ended up retiring him.

This post has been edited by sduck: Aug 27 2011, 04:21 PM

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Cotto-Vargas - hands down to Cotto. Cotto went longer undefeated, beat and fought more quality fighters, made more weight transitions, had more title fights, earned more titles, and is still fighting.

I can't argue anyone putting Cotto before Vargas, as I said it was a toss-up for me, but the bolded part I take a little issue with. I'm not sure anyone on Cotto's resume of fighters faced reads like Trinidad, Wright, De la Hoya and Quartey. All pretty much prime versions of themselves as well.

I don't know maybe I'm missing something here but I think that foursome is way better than anything Cotto faced which was a prime Pac and a slightly past his peak Molsey.

This post has been edited by The Ollie Reed Fan Club: Aug 27 2011, 06:16 PM

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I'm not sure anyone on Cotto's resume of fighters faced reads like Trinidad, Wright, De la Hoya and Quartey. All pretty much prime versions of themselves as well.

Agree Cottos resume isn't anything like Vargas, but Quartey was not prime, not even close.

[The Ollie Reed F...]

Agree Cottos resume isn't anything like Vargas, but Quartey was not prime, not even close.

Just double checked coz I wasn't sure only 14 months after the De la Hoya fight. I'll take that as being close enough to his prime. Remember he was undefeated going into the Hoya fight.

But we could come down to splitting hairs on that one. It's so tough with him and Cotto, I just think to myself what would've happened to Cotto if he'd run into Trinidad at 147? I think he would've got murdered in 6 rounds.