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Cshel86
post Aug 31 2011, 09:47 AM
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Being "undefeated" nowadays is no longer an effective promotional device (in my opinion). There is only one flashy undefeated guy out there, and we know who he is. He effectively used it for promotional purposes, but this is the LAST time, and I repeat, the LAST time I want to hear a fighter bragging about being undefeated, especially if:
1. You dont have enough personality to save your life or keep me awake while watching your interviews (or lack there of)
2. You cant put asses in seats (other than your family members, training team, and entourage)
3. Your ring appeal is sub-par or I know for a fact that I will have to be drunk in order to sit through one of your fights
4. You feel that the world owes you something because you're undefeated

When I hear about a young "undefeated" prospect, I find it hard to hold down breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The only undefeated fighters that I care about are the ones who dont care about losing their '0'.

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post Sep 1 2011, 10:25 AM
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Some fighters like Calzaghe and Bradley have based their whole career around the '0'. Their actual achievements are pretty slim on the ground compared to the reps they built on the back of those '0's.



Generally, the '0' will be seen through, but sometimes we carried away with a big, fat '0' and forget everything else. I'd much rather a nice '1' or '2' on the end of a record and plenty of substance hidden in the '40' or '50' at the start of it.



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QUOTE (blackbelt2003 @ Sep 2 2011, 01:25 AM) *
Some fighters like Calzaghe and Bradley have based their whole career around the '0'. Their actual achievements are pretty slim on the ground compared to the reps they built on the back of those '0's.



Generally, the '0' will be seen through, but sometimes we carried away with a big, fat '0' and forget everything else. I'd much rather a nice '1' or '2' on the end of a record and plenty of substance hidden in the '40' or '50' at the start of it.



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Agreed. There is no shame in losing a fight if you have prepared & given your all. Look at how many fighters have added to their legacy in losing efforts. Quality fights & opponents make careers.

That is one thing I like about UFC where a guy like Randy Couture at 19-11 is a legend. He had a lot of great fights win or lose & his record is solid as all hell with no padding. I respect that more than a undefeated fighter as he took every challenge he could.
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- cshel86   I Will No Longer Acknowledge a '0'   Aug 31 2011, 09:47 AM
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