Aug 31 2011, 09:47 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,562 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
Being "undefeated" nowadays is no longer an effective promotional device (in my opinion). There is only one flashy undefeated guy out there, and we know who he is. He effectively used it for promotional purposes, but this is the LAST time, and I repeat, the LAST time I want to hear a fighter bragging about being undefeated, especially if:
1. You dont have enough personality to save your life or keep me awake while watching your interviews (or lack there of) 2. You cant put asses in seats (other than your family members, training team, and entourage) 3. Your ring appeal is sub-par or I know for a fact that I will have to be drunk in order to sit through one of your fights 4. You feel that the world owes you something because you're undefeated When I hear about a young "undefeated" prospect, I find it hard to hold down breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The only undefeated fighters that I care about are the ones who dont care about losing their '0'. Thoughts? This post has been edited by cshel86: Aug 31 2011, 09:48 AM |
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Aug 31 2011, 04:24 PM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 24-July 11 Member No.: 12,878 |
We need more fight bonuses after the fact, so there will be more entertaining fights. In the UFC, a fighter can double his pay by having KO of the night, and fight of the night. Boxing needs something like this.
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Aug 31 2011, 04:32 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,498 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,970 |
We need more fight bonuses after the fact, so there will be more entertaining fights. In the UFC, a fighter can double his pay by having KO of the night, and fight of the night. Boxing needs something like this. what for? if you've entertaining fights in boxing you can get more dates and make more money. that should be enough motivation. and if you aren't entertaining you can just hire Al Haymon. |
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Aug 31 2011, 04:42 PM
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Amateur Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 24-July 11 Member No.: 12,878 |
what for? if you've entertaining fights in boxing you can get more dates and make more money. that should be enough motivation. and if you aren't entertaining you can just hire Al Haymon. Well it prevents boring fighters like Bhop winning boring decision after boring decision, just to keep winning. Then people want to watch him fight just to see if he loses. It reminds me of his head to head with Jean Pascal screaming "For me it's all about the W!" But what he doesn't realize is that there are some fighters out there who actually want to please the fans with a good fight. This might prevent some fighters from just trying to win boring decisions to stay undefeated and relevant. Honestly, having another payday in the future doesn't always come into play when they are already making big bucks for that apperance. Look at David Haye, cashed out and ready to retire. |
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Aug 31 2011, 05:05 PM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Team BU Posts: 2,498 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,970 |
Well it prevents boring fighters like Bhop winning boring decision after boring decision, just to keep winning. Then people want to watch him fight just to see if he loses. It reminds me of his head to head with Jean Pascal screaming "For me it's all about the W!" But what he doesn't realize is that there are some fighters out there who actually want to please the fans with a good fight. This might prevent some fighters from just trying to win boring decisions to stay undefeated and relevant. Honestly, having another payday in the future doesn't always come into play when they are already making big bucks for that apperance. Look at David Haye, cashed out and ready to retire. if you want to see some fighters with no skill slug it out go watch Silver Gloves. decisions are part of boxing. if the fighter isn't running and putting in a noneffort i can't really see what the problem is. i really can't see the similarity between Hopkins vs Pascal and Wlad vs Haye either, Hopkins fought a good fight. he showed great footwork, feints, angles and use of the jab. |
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cshel86 I Will No Longer Acknowledge a '0' Aug 31 2011, 09:47 AM
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