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MaxPayne
post Nov 4 2011, 04:40 PM
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Manny Pacquiao transcends the sport of boxing. He’s the boxing world’s biggest star, an international phenomenon, the likes of which have not been seen since the days of Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson.

There are those however, who would question the way this rise to stardom happened; that there may be something sinister lurking in history’s forgotten cellars. Where does the threshold between the possibilities of human endeavor and superhuman abilities really lie? Those who claim that Manny Pacquiao has had help of the wrong kind as he has risen through the boxing ranks are generally vilified and called intolerable naysayers and conspiracy theorists.

I for years have remained impartial in this debate.

For the first time, I will attempt to mathematically and logically discern clues as to where the truth may really lie.

I’ve decided to take a look at Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather’s rise through weight classes over the years, specifically focusing on super-featherweight and above. I have used boxrec.com’s records of their weigh-in weights for fights taking place at these weights over the years.


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- MaxPayne   The Numbers Don't Lie   Nov 4 2011, 04:40 PM
- - MaxPayne   Let’s begin with Pacquiao. On March 15th, 2008, P...   Nov 4 2011, 04:41 PM
- - MaxPayne   Now, let’s switch to Floyd Mayweather. On Novemb...   Nov 4 2011, 04:43 PM
- - MaxPayne   Naturally, one must look beyond weight gain and de...   Nov 4 2011, 04:45 PM
- - MaxPayne   Now, let us turn our attention to the post Super F...   Nov 4 2011, 04:47 PM
- - MaxPayne   In conclusion, 3 key points: Manny Pacquiao jumpe...   Nov 4 2011, 04:48 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 4 2011, 05:48 PM) I...   Nov 5 2011, 11:14 AM
- - caneman   LOLZ! When he fought JMM the night of the figh...   Nov 4 2011, 04:55 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 4 2011, 05:55 PM) LO...   Nov 4 2011, 06:31 PM
|- - HazConvictedFelonMane   QUOTE (thehype @ Nov 4 2011, 07:31 PM) No...   Nov 7 2011, 07:10 AM
- - sduck   How significant would things change if you include...   Nov 4 2011, 05:45 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 4 2011, 06:45 PM) How ...   Nov 4 2011, 05:50 PM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   Very informative. Certain people would call this a...   Nov 4 2011, 06:08 PM
- - caneman   Max did do a good job with his info but I don...   Nov 4 2011, 06:30 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (thehype @ Nov 4 2011, 06:31 PM) No...   Nov 4 2011, 06:39 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (thehype @ Nov 4 2011, 06:31 PM) No...   Nov 4 2011, 06:48 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 4 2011, 07:48 PM) OK...   Nov 4 2011, 07:51 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 4 2011, 07:51 PM) S...   Nov 4 2011, 08:37 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 4 2011, 09:37 PM) Yo...   Nov 4 2011, 08:41 PM
- - xxxxxx   Good stuff Max. Very interesting and informative.   Nov 4 2011, 08:40 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Nov 4 2011, 09:40 PM) Goo...   Nov 4 2011, 08:42 PM
- - Hops   So, based on this available info, when do you thin...   Nov 4 2011, 09:20 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (Hops @ Nov 4 2011, 10:20 PM) So, b...   Nov 4 2011, 11:19 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 4 2011, 08:51 PM) S...   Nov 4 2011, 10:24 PM
- - mgrover   I doubt its peds, just cherry picking fighters, mm...   Nov 5 2011, 05:05 AM
- - jlupi   LOLZ! When he fought JMM the night of the figh...   Nov 5 2011, 08:22 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (jlupi @ Nov 5 2011, 08:22 AM) LOLZ...   Nov 5 2011, 08:37 AM
|- - gbh32001   $1M question, with or without PED will FMJ fi...   Nov 5 2011, 09:45 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (gbh32001 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:45 AM) ...   Nov 5 2011, 11:23 AM
|- - Plah   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 5 2011, 12:23 PM) I...   Nov 5 2011, 01:42 PM
- - mrchitown   Very informative post. Very unique way to look @ t...   Nov 5 2011, 08:45 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 4 2011, 08:51 PM) S...   Nov 5 2011, 11:57 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 5 2011, 11:57 PM) I ca...   Nov 6 2011, 12:42 AM
- - sduck   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 6 2011, 01:42 AM) An...   Nov 7 2011, 12:43 AM
|- - NathanJassi90   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 7 2011, 06:43 AM) I fo...   Nov 7 2011, 04:19 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 7 2011, 12:43 AM) Of c...   Nov 7 2011, 10:24 AM
- - NathanJassi90   Finally, someone who knows some shit about boxing....   Nov 7 2011, 04:21 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 7 2011, 07...   Nov 7 2011, 09:53 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 09:53 AM) Bu...   Nov 7 2011, 10:32 AM
|- - HazConvictedFelonMane   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 09:53 AM) Bu...   Nov 7 2011, 01:34 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 7 2011, 12:43 AM) Of c...   Nov 7 2011, 10:34 AM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 11:32 AM) W...   Nov 7 2011, 10:50 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 10:50 AM) Mo...   Nov 7 2011, 11:13 AM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 10:50 AM) So...   Nov 7 2011, 12:05 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 12:05 PM) M...   Nov 7 2011, 12:25 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 12:05 PM) M...   Nov 7 2011, 12:15 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 12:25 PM) I ...   Nov 7 2011, 12:41 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 7 2011, 01...   Nov 7 2011, 01:39 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 7 2011, 01...   Nov 7 2011, 01:59 PM
- - caneman   I like this wrap here for protection...the main th...   Nov 7 2011, 02:09 PM
|- - HazConvictedFelonMane   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 02:09 PM) I ...   Nov 7 2011, 06:25 PM
- - MaxPayne   Even when you say that Mayweather fought "nob...   Nov 7 2011, 02:11 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 02:11 PM) E...   Nov 7 2011, 02:24 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 02:24 PM) Po...   Nov 7 2011, 04:09 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 04:09 PM) Y...   Nov 7 2011, 04:16 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 04:16 PM) I ...   Nov 7 2011, 05:08 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 05:08 PM) Y...   Nov 7 2011, 05:18 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 05:18 PM) Ti...   Nov 7 2011, 05:46 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 05:46 PM) H...   Nov 7 2011, 06:14 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 05:46 PM) H...   Nov 7 2011, 07:23 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 07:23 PM) He...   Nov 7 2011, 07:34 PM
|- - Plah   Hell, and all this time I thought it was karma...I...   Nov 7 2011, 10:47 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 07:34 PM) Sh...   Nov 7 2011, 08:05 PM
- - Cshel86   ...shit is nasty man! Looked like he had an al...   Nov 7 2011, 08:15 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 08:15 PM) ....   Nov 7 2011, 08:20 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (caneman @ Nov 7 2011, 08:20 PM) He...   Nov 7 2011, 08:22 PM
- - MaxPayne   I wish Manny would have fucked Margacheato up even...   Nov 7 2011, 11:18 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 7 2011, 11:18 PM) I...   Nov 8 2011, 08:24 AM
- - streetlion1   Based on what I've seen from Pacquiao I feel h...   Nov 11 2011, 01:49 PM
- - Cshel86   I believe the only two fights that he had great su...   Nov 11 2011, 02:34 PM
- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Nov 11 2011, 02:49 P...   Nov 11 2011, 04:33 PM
|- - streetlion1   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 11 2011, 03:33 PM...   Nov 11 2011, 05:08 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 11 2011, 04:33 PM...   Nov 11 2011, 06:17 PM
- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Nov 11 2011, 05:08 P...   Nov 12 2011, 07:56 AM
- - streetlion1   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 12 2011, 06:56 AM...   Nov 12 2011, 10:02 AM
|- - Snoop   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Nov 12 2011, 04:02 P...   Nov 12 2011, 10:43 AM
|- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ Nov 12 2011, 10:02 A...   Nov 12 2011, 01:49 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Nov 12 2011, 07:56 AM...   Nov 12 2011, 01:54 PM
- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 12 2011, 01:54 PM) N...   Nov 12 2011, 02:04 PM


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