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Jack 1000
post Nov 5 2011, 10:00 AM
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For all on-going and post fight reactions to the Angulo-Kirkland fight. Keep everything in this thread.

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Jack 1000
post Nov 17 2011, 03:52 PM
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I just re-watched the fight on HBO VOD and Lederman said something that open scoring was used for the fight because it was a WBC Elimination Bout, but because the house mic did not work, people did not know about it. And in a fight where maybe Angulo took round three, with only the first round being thrilling with the swapped knockdowns, one judge had Kirkland up by only one point, in what was pretty much a dominate performance by Kirkland after that thrilling first round.

Which begs the question, how would partial open scoring improve the outcome of decisions? If a boxer is going to get robbed, he's going to get robbed anyway. Jose Suliman keeps forgetting that this was tried before, at least in the States several times and failed. It is also interesting to inquire, why the Japanese Boxing Commission thinks open scoring is so great?

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- Jack 1000   HBO@10:15PM (ET)/7:15PM (PT)-Angulo vs. Kirkland-SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later   Nov 5 2011, 10:00 AM
- - gbh32001   Let' start the spoiler...5 hours to go.. Round...   Nov 5 2011, 10:10 AM
- - Sunni6Killer   Angulo by KO in the 5th.   Nov 5 2011, 10:43 AM
- - BoxingStill#1   Does anyone have weigh in pics?   Nov 5 2011, 12:02 PM
- - Cshel86   RE: HBO@10:15PM (ET)/7:15PM (PT)-Angulo vs. Kirkland-SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later   Nov 5 2011, 12:29 PM
- - BoxingEinstein   I CAN'T FUCKIN WAIT!!!!!...   Nov 5 2011, 01:25 PM
- - C.Alarid1   ANGULO ALL THE WAY!!!! After he kn...   Nov 5 2011, 04:25 PM
- - Praximo   Kirkland better not pull a Cintron by jabbing and ...   Nov 5 2011, 06:27 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Praximo @ Nov 5 2011, 07:27 PM) Ki...   Nov 5 2011, 06:53 PM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   Looking forward to a barnburner, Hope I don't ...   Nov 5 2011, 07:57 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (HazConvictedFelonMane @ Nov 5 2011, 07...   Nov 5 2011, 09:25 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 5 2011, 10:25 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 09:27 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:27 PM) +1...   Nov 5 2011, 09:34 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:34 PM) I...   Nov 5 2011, 09:36 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:36 PM) Im...   Nov 5 2011, 09:39 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 5 2011, 10:39 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 09:43 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:43 PM) Ha...   Nov 5 2011, 09:45 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 5 2011, 10:45 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 09:53 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:53 PM) Lm...   Nov 5 2011, 09:56 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:53 PM) Lm...   Nov 5 2011, 09:57 PM
- - bnoles4life   DAMMIT, JIM!!!! Those Corona gals...   Nov 5 2011, 10:04 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 5 2011, 11:04 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:07 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:07 PM) Ma...   Nov 5 2011, 10:12 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn James has no chin at all, smh WHERE THA FUCK...   Nov 5 2011, 10:10 PM
- - Cheesey1   OMFG!!!!!   Nov 5 2011, 10:11 PM
- - Cheesey1   Wow, talk about living up to expectations...and th...   Nov 5 2011, 10:12 PM
- - Cshel86   Now they're fighting like fat ass heavyweights...   Nov 5 2011, 10:16 PM
- - Box in Hand   Good Chit man. Good chit.   Nov 5 2011, 10:16 PM
- - Cshel86   Take a knee man! Too damn Mexican for his own ...   Nov 5 2011, 10:17 PM
- - Cheesey1   Who would've thought that after the first roun...   Nov 5 2011, 10:21 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:21 PM) W...   Nov 5 2011, 10:23 PM
- - TheFonz   War James!   Nov 5 2011, 10:21 PM
- - Box in Hand   Kirkland better never leave Wolf ever again cause ...   Nov 5 2011, 10:21 PM
|- - gbh32001   Fukkin' Angulo did not follow my script...LOL....   Nov 5 2011, 10:23 PM
|- - gbh32001   I won $1800.00 ha ha ha ha   Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM
- - TheFonz   Anculo sucks!   Nov 5 2011, 10:22 PM
- - TheFonz   Anculo sucks!   Nov 5 2011, 10:23 PM
- - Cshel86   Angulo is out on his feet man   Nov 5 2011, 10:25 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:25 PM) An...   Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM) Y...   Nov 5 2011, 10:33 PM
- - Box in Hand   The announcers are making this shit seem like Corr...   Nov 5 2011, 10:29 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 5 2011, 11:29 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM
||- - Box in Hand   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM) Te...   Nov 5 2011, 10:33 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 5 2011, 11:29 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:33 PM
- - TheFonz   I like being right. Good job, James!   Nov 5 2011, 10:31 PM
- - checkleft   Good fight, I can't believe angulo punched him...   Nov 5 2011, 10:34 PM
- - Box in Hand   Damn De La Hoya looks like shit. He looks like he...   Nov 5 2011, 10:35 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Box in Hand @ Nov 5 2011, 11:35 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:40 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:40 PM) Co...   Nov 5 2011, 10:42 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:42 PM) F...   Nov 5 2011, 10:45 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 10:40 PM) Co...   Nov 5 2011, 10:46 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:31 PM) Y...   Nov 5 2011, 10:39 PM
- - MaxPayne   Incredible performance by Kirkland. Showed some go...   Nov 5 2011, 10:45 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 5 2011, 10:45 PM) I...   Nov 5 2011, 10:48 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 5 2011, 11:48 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 10:59 PM
- - Aware   Ann "Muthafuckin" Wolfe!!! T...   Nov 5 2011, 10:51 PM
- - The Original MrFactor   One helluva fight. On par with the brutality of Ha...   Nov 5 2011, 11:00 PM
- - BigFightFan   Best fight I have seen since Berto vs Ortiz!...   Nov 5 2011, 11:02 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Nov 5 2011, 11:02 PM...   Nov 5 2011, 11:06 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Nov 5 2011, 11:45 PM) I...   Nov 5 2011, 11:02 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:02 PM) He...   Nov 5 2011, 11:08 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 6 2011, 12:08 AM...   Nov 5 2011, 11:11 PM
- - bnoles4life   Btw, Kirkland needs to be VERY un-Khanlike and ave...   Nov 5 2011, 11:11 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   Very good fight that played out almost exactly how...   Nov 5 2011, 11:45 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Nov 6 2011, 12:45 ...   Nov 5 2011, 11:47 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Nov 5 2011, 11:45 ...   Nov 6 2011, 10:11 AM
- - sduck   That was an amazing performance by Kirkland. Sold ...   Nov 6 2011, 12:12 AM
- - BoxingEinstein   What a fucking fight!!...That was a classi...   Nov 6 2011, 12:57 AM
- - BoxingEinstein   this fight should have been called "BOMBS AWA...   Nov 6 2011, 02:15 AM
- - HazConvictedFelonMane   Sheesh. I think the inactivity really hurt Angulo....   Nov 6 2011, 07:45 AM
- - Cshel86   Kirkland put on a great performance tonight, thoug...   Nov 6 2011, 10:56 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 6 2011, 10:56 AM) No...   Nov 6 2011, 12:04 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 6 2011, 12:04 PM...   Nov 6 2011, 03:35 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 6 2011, 04:35 PM) We...   Nov 6 2011, 07:48 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 6 2011, 03:35 PM) We...   Nov 7 2011, 07:50 AM
- - checkleft   Put him in there with Lara, I'm amazed how muc...   Nov 6 2011, 02:16 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 6 2011, 03:16 PM) ...   Nov 6 2011, 02:57 PM
- - caneman   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 6 2011, 01:04 PM...   Nov 6 2011, 03:05 PM
- - Jack 1000   Awesome!!!! I had the first round ...   Nov 7 2011, 02:29 AM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Nov 7 2011, 01:29 AM) ...   Nov 7 2011, 06:45 AM
- - Sunni6Killer   Congrats to Kirkland, thought he was going to get ...   Nov 7 2011, 10:31 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Nov 7 2011, 07:50 AM...   Nov 7 2011, 11:05 AM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 12:05 PM) Ye...   Nov 7 2011, 11:11 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Nov 7 2011, 11:11 AM) Sh...   Nov 7 2011, 11:15 AM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 12:15 PM) ...   Nov 7 2011, 11:21 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Nov 7 2011, 11:21 AM) ju...   Nov 7 2011, 11:33 AM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 12:33 PM) Si...   Nov 7 2011, 12:01 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Nov 7 2011, 12:01 PM) ha...   Nov 7 2011, 12:12 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 01:12 PM) I ...   Nov 7 2011, 12:17 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Nov 7 2011, 12:17 PM) ha...   Nov 7 2011, 12:21 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 01:21 PM) Ye...   Nov 7 2011, 12:54 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (EAlbian @ Nov 7 2011, 12:54 PM) I...   Nov 7 2011, 01:07 PM
|- - EAlbian   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 7 2011, 02:07 PM) Gr...   Nov 7 2011, 01:45 PM
- - Jack 1000   I just re-watched the fight on HBO VOD and Lederma...   Nov 17 2011, 03:52 PM


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