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Allmenjoi8
post Dec 4 2011, 05:16 PM
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Would anyone be interested in seeing Floyd and Cotto Cotto does look strong and he could give May some fits. If the Pac fight does not fall through this could be a match up that generates interest
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Cshel86
post Dec 6 2011, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Dec 5 2011, 10:38 PM) *
the Baldomir fight only put fear in the heart of someone who was scared to fall asleep.


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QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:23 AM) *
Well they can fight again because I clearly missed that fight (Floyd must have been fighting that night lol)...


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Well they can fight again because I clearly missed that fight


Why should they fight again because you missed it? At this point, Pavlik cant even make Middleweight and be effective.

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What is wrong with Kirkland?


Whats aint wrong with Kirkland? Well, I can give him some type of credit...he's not all that bad.

QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:23 AM) *
Then Canelo and Sergio should fight in the undercard. It should be easy since Golden Boy has Canelo and Sergio I think works with Dibilla (correct spelling?) it should be an easy fight to sign.


Canelo and Sergio would be a big fight on its own...no need to put it on a big card like that and not make as much money as they could make if it were an individual event. Besides, that would have to be a big budget, and Im sure Canelo and Sergio wont be able to fit in that budget because of their market value...especially Canelo's. Yes, Martinez is with Lou DiBella.

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I am going to ignore your first statement because it was (IMG:style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif)


...but it was the absolute truth. Again, if you would stop confronting me and others about an issue that you've clearly not mastered (staying on topic), then you just might be alright...
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 6 2011, 10:09 AM) *
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Why should they fight again because you missed it? At this point, Pavlik cant even make Middleweight and be effective.



Whats aint wrong with Kirkland? Well, I can give him some type of credit...he's not all that bad.



Canelo and Sergio would be a big fight on its own...no need to put it on a big card like that and not make as much money as they could make if it were an individual event. Besides, that would have to be a big budget, and Im sure Canelo and Sergio wont be able to fit in that budget because of their market value...especially Canelo's. Yes, Martinez is with Lou DiBella.



...but it was the absolute truth. Again, if you would stop confronting me and others about an issue that you've clearly not mastered (staying on topic), then you just might be alright...


The problem with Sergio like so many people have pointed is that he is not that known, Canelo on the other hand is very popular. If Canelo will be bringing more fans to he fight it would be the same thing as Floyd fighting Sergio. It would only bolster Sergio's fame if he did fight on a big card especially a Mayweather card. The winner would be next in line for Mayweather. Guerrero feels that somehow he deserves the next match up with May and to be honest I am just now hearing of him. I think I saw him fight but I was not blow away, he is a good fighter but nothing that makes me think he is the next big Mexican boxing star., clearly Chavez Jr has the honor.

The point is Mr. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif) is that Sergio and Canelo would benefit from being on an under card with Floyd. It would help further each man's popularity. If May does fight Cotto three different Spanish cultures would be represented: Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Argentinian. Everyone wins!!! Mayweather v.s Cotto and Canelo vs. Seregio and for the under under card Broner vs. Dargan! Now that is a card.
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post Dec 6 2011, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Dec 6 2011, 12:04 PM) *
The point is Mr. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif) is that Sergio and Canelo would benefit from being on an under card with Floyd. It would help further each man's popularity. If May does fight Cotto three different Spanish cultures would be represented: Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Argentinian. Everyone wins!!! Mayweather v.s Cotto and Canelo vs. Seregio and for the under under card Broner vs. Dargan! Now that is a card.



No where NEAR enough money (left) on the table for Canelo and Sergio, once Floyd gets his off the top. It's not called the "lion's share" because it's a Jenny Craig-like proportion.

I agree, awesome card, but if I'm Canelo and Sergio, I'm not fighting on the undercard of a guy that I "think" I can beat (not to mention, I'm a champ).

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post Dec 6 2011, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Dec 6 2011, 07:24 PM) *
No where NEAR enough money (left) on the table for Canelo and Sergio, once Floyd gets his off the top. It's not called the "lion's share" because it's a Jenny Craig-like proportion.

I agree, awesome card, but if I'm Canelo and Sergio, I'm not fighting on the undercard of a guy that I "think" I can beat (not to mention, I'm a champ).


How many PPV numbers could Sergio and Canelo can do if they fought? Over million or million flat. I am telling you now I am not or would not pay 50 bucks on that fight. If they can each get 5 million a piece plus 5% of the gate and PPV then I think it can work. I am sure May would be willing to listen. This is my wishful thinking.

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post Dec 8 2011, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE (Allmenjoi8 @ Dec 6 2011, 08:29 PM) *
How many PPV numbers could Sergio and Canelo can do if they fought? Over million or million flat. I am telling you now I am not or would not pay 50 bucks on that fight. If they can each get 5 million a piece plus 5% of the gate and PPV then I think it can work. I am sure May would be willing to listen. This is my wishful thinking.



1. Of course you wouldn't pay for it, you're NOT Mexican......are you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nea.gif)

2. $10M b/t those two AND 5% of the gate, no telling what Floyd is getting off the top....what on Earth would GBP get? Yeah, Floyd would listen, laugh and then say, "Nah, seriously Richard, whatcha got for me?"

NO WAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!
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post Dec 8 2011, 05:42 PM
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Cotto isn't "younger" than Mayweather.


In terms of ring age and wear and tear, Cotto is pushing 40 and Mayweather is about in his mid 20's.

Cotto took more damage against Pacquiao & Margarito than Floyd has taken in his entire career... and that's not counting a bunch of other Cotto fights where he sustained heavy damage as well. You can only go to the well so many times.
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post Dec 8 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (BrutalBodyShots @ Dec 8 2011, 06:42 PM) *
Cotto isn't "younger" than Mayweather.


In terms of ring age and wear and tear, Cotto is pushing 40 and Mayweather is about in his mid 20's.

Cotto took more damage against Pacquiao & Margarito than Floyd has taken in his entire career... and that's not counting a bunch of other Cotto fights where he sustained heavy damage as well. You can only go to the well so many times.



NOt to mention, did you see his face in this last "domination" of Margarito?
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QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Dec 8 2011, 06:46 PM) *
NOt to mention, did you see his face in this last "domination" of Margarito?


Yup, another classic case of winning the battle but losing the war. Cotto took a lot of heavy shots and damage in close fights with Clottey & Mosley too, but that fact seems to be forgotten because he got the W in those fights. He also took a lot of heavy shots from Mayorga. While Cotto landed like 100 more jabs on Mayorga that night, Mayorga outlanded Cotto in power shots clipping him with something like 190 from what I recall. Again, a fact that's forgotten because Cotto got the W.

Even digging back to Cotto's days at 140 guys like Corley and Torres had no trouble lighting him up.

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- Allmenjoi8   Cotto/Mayweather May 5th   Dec 4 2011, 05:16 PM
- - Hittman25   Fuck Ya Miguel cotto vs floyd Maywheather should h...   Dec 4 2011, 05:47 PM
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- - mrchitown   Even though it would be long over-due, i'd def...   Dec 4 2011, 07:13 PM
- - mrwigi   It wuld be a good fight to watch, but if I'm n...   Dec 4 2011, 07:20 PM
|- - JONdaCON817   QUOTE (mrwigi @ Dec 4 2011, 06:20 PM) It ...   Dec 4 2011, 08:02 PM
|- - dhoward126   QUOTE (JONdaCON817 @ Dec 4 2011, 08:02 PM...   Dec 4 2011, 08:08 PM
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- - Seek   Yes pls make this fight! At 147 tho miguel or...   Dec 4 2011, 08:37 PM
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