[Cshel86]

Of course, after the first fight Lopez made no excuses, but we all know what was going on with him personally. Im sure that gaining crazy weight between fights (like he usually does), did him no favors in the first fight. At this point, Lopez seems very vulnerable (according to his last bout), but will he be able to pull it off against Salido this time?

As for Salido, he really has nothing to lose. He has enough loses on his record, to say the least, so Im not all that sure if he cares about losing. I mean he does have a title, but he stopped Lopez, so in my opinion, he doesn't have to do anything else right in his career (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thoughts?

[Seek]

Lopez had a terrible night. He looked like he could care less whether he won, lost or even got knocked out. Something was very wrong and I think it had all to do with him and his wife calling it quits. That's tough man. I'm going with Lopez on this one. Lopez by tko

[Franchize]

I think Lopez by close decision. I think he'll come in the fight ready to reclaim his glory but I think it will still be a tough fight because Salido will be out to prove it was no fluke.

[Cshel86]

Man I had to give this to Salido, again. Like I stated earlier, in a sense, he doesn't have much to lose. If anything, Juanma has the weight of the world on his shoulders, and has much more to prove. He lost by TKO, a prolonged TKO to be exact.

Its not like Salido won by decision, and Lopez has always been a sucker for a right hand, so there you have it. Im sure the fight would've been stopped earlier than that, had they not been in Lopez's back yard.

[Cheesey1]

I think Lopez will win by UD, or possibly even late TKO. I watched the clip that you posted and to me it looked like everytime Salido caught Lopez with clear bombs it was because Lopez didn't seem ready for what was coming and I'd assume that he won't make that mistake the second time.

It's also nice to see that Top Rank has at least one boxer who isn't a cowardly little kitten....

This post has been edited by Cheesey1: Jan 18 2012, 11:47 AM

[Cshel86]

I think Lopez will win by UD, or possibly even late TKO. I watched the clip that you posted and to me it looked like everytime Salido caught Lopez with clear bombs it was because Lopez didn't seem ready for what was coming and I'd assume that he won't make that mistake the second time.

It's also nice to see that Top Rank has at least one boxer who isn't a cowardly little kitten....

Because he wasn't ready for what was coming??? Isn't that how KO's occur anyway? Im about 110% sure Arum put Lopez in there with Salido to win that fight, not get his clock cleaned.

About 7 months prior to this bout, another one of Arum's fighters (Gamboa) pretty much had his way with Salido, so again, Lopez was supposed to win this one.

[Seek]

The stoppage was also questionable. I didn't think Juanma was all that hurt and could have fought on. I honestly believe he just didn't care what happened that night. I havn't seen him fight since then but if he has his head screwed on right this time, he'll take this no problem

[Cheesey1]

Because he wasn't ready for what was coming??? Isn't that how KO's occur anyway? Im about 110% sure Arum put Lopez in there with Salido to win that fight, not get his clock cleaned.

About 7 months prior to this bout, another one of Arum's fighters (Gamboa) pretty much had his way with Salido, so again, Lopez was supposed to win this one.

Ehrm...didn't know (or had forgotten, which is more likely) that Gamboa fought Salido, but I think that Gamboa's better than Lopez anyway. I agree with you saying that nobody expected Lopez to lose, especially like that, but I give him credit for making the rematch happen, even though he's still the favourite.

While I understand what you mean when you say "isn't that how KOs occur anyway?" I don't completely agree. Some guys get KTFO because they're fatigued or simply in there with a better fighter, but they still see it coming. Lopez was either fatigued from the beating that he was taking and his reflexes were done, or he just didn't think that Salido would throw as quickly as he did. Of course it could also be as you said that he has problems with defending against the right hand.

This post has been edited by Cheesey1: Jan 18 2012, 12:33 PM

[Cshel86]

Ehrm...didn't know (or had forgotten, which is more likely) that Gamboa fought Salido, but I think that Gamboa's better than Lopez anyway. I agree with you saying that nobody expected Lopez to lose, especially like that, but I give him credit for making the rematch happen, even though he's still the favourite.

While I understand what you mean when you say "isn't that how KOs occur anyway?" I don't completely agree. Some guys get KTFO because they're fatigued or simply in there with a better fighter, but they still see it coming. Lopez was either fatigued from the beating that he was taking and his reflexes were done, or he just didn't think that Salido would throw as quickly as he did. Of course it could be as you said that he has problems with defending against the right han.d

Lopez needs this rematch, desperately. The upside of it, is that he will actually gain something by beating Salido this time...unlike the unfortunate case with James Kirkland who was KO'd by a guy that he KNEW he was supposed to beat. Going back and slaughtering Ishida does shit for him, because he wasn't supposed to lose in the first place, and besides, who was Ishida before he beat James? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As far as getting KO'd because they didn't see it...ask Montiel how that feels! The shots that have the biggest effect, are the ones that you dont see coming. I can side with you on the fatigue part, but not seeing it coming usually seals the deal, and all it takes is one punch to change the trajectory of a fight. So, in Lopez's case and your argument, fatigue from a beating set in, his reflexes were on vacation, and sure he saw some of those right hands coming due to it...but not the first one got him in trouble (not the one that floored him).

[MaxPayne]

My goodness, has Lopez ever blocked or slipped a punch in his life ? Solido in that fight was damn near throwing hooks BLIND with his head down and was still catching Lopez with big shots.

I think the problem for Lopez was that he couldn't hurt Solido. Solido kept walking through Lopez's shots and landing huge ones of his own. On the other hand, it looks like Lopez has chin issues, if he was floored like that by someone who can at best be called a journeyman.

It's just amazing to me how these guys have no defense whatsoever. Idiots like Lopez and Gamboa are built off of what ? Beating the crap out of dead bodies ? Please.

If any of these guys went up to 130 lbs. and had the balls to face Adrien Broner, they would get the dog shit beaten out of them, believe that.

If blind hooks can land, imagine what sharp jabs and straight right hands would do to them.