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Lopez vs Salido Rematch
Who will win?
Lopez by decision (close) [ 2 ] ** [15.38%]
Lopez by decision (wide) [ 1 ] ** [7.69%]
Lopez by KO/TKO [ 1 ] ** [7.69%]
Salido by decision (close) [ 3 ] ** [23.08%]
Salido by decision (wide) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Salido by KO/TKO [ 6 ] ** [46.15%]
Draw [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
DQ (Indicate fighter in response) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (Seek @ Jan 18 2012, 12:23 PM) *
The stoppage was also questionable. I didn't think Juanma was all that hurt and could have fought on. I honestly believe he just didn't care what happened that night. I havn't seen him fight since then but if he has his head screwed on right this time, he'll take this no problem

Questionable?! Please Seek! Juanma looked like he had just left the downtown bar on a birthday night! He was still throwing punches, but it looked like he was throwing them underwater. Salido's right hand became best friends with Lopez's chin, no question about it.

The sad part is, they were in PR! WTF? The ref did all he could by letting the fight go on that many rounds after he was floored the first time. Had this fight taken place anywhere other than PR, then I may agreed...I may have agreed. Being the fact that it was stopped like that in his hometown, goes to show you that the prognosis was clear as day.

He didn't look all that well in his last fight either (I believe it was in October some time).
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post Jan 18 2012, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Jan 18 2012, 12:42 PM) *
My goodness, has Lopez ever blocked or slipped a punch in his life ? Solido in that fight was damn near throwing hooks BLIND with his head down and was still catching Lopez with big shots.

I think the problem for Lopez was that he couldn't hurt Solido. Solido kept walking through Lopez's shots and landing huge ones of his own. On the other hand, it looks like Lopez has chin issues, if he was floored like that by someone who can at best be called a journeyman.

It's just amazing to me how these guys have no defense whatsoever. Idiots like Lopez and Gamboa are built off of what ? Beating the crap out of dead bodies ? Please.

If any of these guys went up to 130 lbs. and had the balls to face Adrien Broner, they would get the dog shit beaten out of them, believe that.

If blind hooks can land, imagine what sharp jabs and straight right hands would do to them.

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post Jan 18 2012, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:46 PM) *
Questionable?! Please Seek! Juanma looked like he had just left the downtown bar on a birthday night! He was still throwing punches, but it looked like he was throwing them underwater. Salido's right hand became best friends with Lopez's chin, no question about it.

The sad part is, they were in PR! WTF? The ref did all he could by letting the fight go on that many rounds after he was floored the first time. Had this fight taken place anywhere other than PR, then I may agreed...I may have agreed. Being the fact that it was stopped like that in his hometown, goes to show you that the prognosis was clear as day.

He didn't look all that well in his last fight either (I believe it was in October some time).


He didn't look hurt to me. From what I recall he was still throwing punches when they stopped it. It was more of his body language that made it appear he didn't want to fight. But he clearly didn't give a shit, even after they waived it off, he didn't care one bit. If he comes to win this time, he'll knock Salido out. I guarentee it
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (Seek @ Jan 18 2012, 12:52 PM) *
He didn't look hurt to me. From what I recall he was still throwing punches when they stopped it. It was more of his body language that made it appear he didn't want to fight. But he clearly didn't give a shit, even after they waived it off, he didn't care one bit. If he comes to win this time, he'll knock Salido out. I guarentee it

Oh trust me Seek, he was hurt and Im sure the ref got tired of him getting knocked around the ring and rocked with right hands. He didn't give a shit about the stoppage? Lopez was pissed off and trying to fight after they waved it off. Im sure he's gonna bring his A-Game this time...if he knows whats good for his reputation.
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:15 PM
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Yeah, Broner vs. Lopez, or Gamboa would be very interesting. Not really a fan of the very low weight divisions as a whole, but there are definitley some great boxers in those divisions. Looking forward to seeing more of Gary Russell too.

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post Jan 18 2012, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:04 PM) *
Oh trust me Seek, he was hurt and Im sure the ref got tired of him getting knocked around the ring and rocked with right hands. He didn't give a shit about the stoppage? Lopez was pissed off and trying to fight after they waved it off. Im sure he's gonna bring his A-Game this time...if he knows whats good for his reputation.


I like Juanman. He brings it. But he leaves his chin out in the air and gets cracked/knocked down easily. I just really didn't like the way Juanma looked in the Salido fight. There was no passion, no thunder in his punches. He wasn't as relentless as i'm used to seeing him. He has more than enough tools and power to put Salido away I believe.
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:15 PM) *
Yeah, Broner vs. Lopez, or Gamboa would be very interesting. Not really a fan of the very low weight divisions as a whole, but there are definitley some great boxers in those divisions. Looking forward to seeing more of Gary Russell too.

Yeah Im trying to pay more attention the lower weight classes, but its clear that they aren't what they used to be...with the likes FMJ, Morales, Barrers, JMM, Pacquiao, Hamed, and so forth.

QUOTE (Seek @ Jan 18 2012, 01:18 PM) *
I like Juanman. He brings it. But he leaves his chin out in the air and gets cracked/knocked down easily. I just really didn't like the way Juanma looked in the Salido fight. There was no passion, no thunder in his punches. He wasn't as relentless as i'm used to seeing him. He has more than enough tools and power to put Salido away I believe.

He has what it takes, but as Max explained, Salido was taking some of Juanma's best punches. I blame it on Lopez blowing up in weight between fights. He was reported to have weighed around 180 lbs at a cookout (according to Arum), months before the Salido fight. That sounds a bit exaggerated, but I need to find the article that I read about him.
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post Jan 18 2012, 04:16 PM
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Salido will have the same success as he did last time landing that right hand on JuanMa's shaky chin. Lopez is an idiot for trying to stay at 126, his body outgrew that division before the Marquez fight and he normally walks around at 150 pounds. While exterior circumstances did affect him that night (nasty divorce with his wife, him eating himself silly etc.), what did him in is his contempt for defense and Salido's chin. Granted, Salido looked terrible in his last fight against Weng Haya, but Lopez showed that same leaky defense against Mike Oliver and it doesn't look like he's convinced that the weight and his focus was the problem, not the fact that Salido was eating his punches for lunch. I'll give it to Salido by TKO probably the same way it happened before, with him buzzing Lopez bad and beating up on him for a few rounds before the stoppage comes. A tragic end to a career that was so promising.
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post Jan 18 2012, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE (Seek @ Jan 18 2012, 01:23 PM) *
The stoppage was also questionable. I didn't think Juanma was all that hurt and could have fought on. I honestly believe he just didn't care what happened that night. I havn't seen him fight since then but if he has his head screwed on right this time, he'll take this no problem


I don't agree. Juanma was not protecting himself and that's what the ref is there for to protect the fighter when they are taking too much punishment. He was hurt extremely tired and was on the verge of going down again. Juanma is good but he has some conditioning and defensive problems, I see salido winning again. Lopez is a real sucker for right hand shots and he's been down before and he will go down again. But I do see him being more focused and more competitive.
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QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Jan 18 2012, 01:42 PM) *
My goodness, has Lopez ever blocked or slipped a punch in his life ? Solido in that fight was damn near throwing hooks BLIND with his head down and was still catching Lopez with big shots.

I think the problem for Lopez was that he couldn't hurt Solido. Solido kept walking through Lopez's shots and landing huge ones of his own. On the other hand, it looks like Lopez has chin issues, if he was floored like that by someone who can at best be called a journeyman.

It's just amazing to me how these guys have no defense whatsoever. Idiots like Lopez and Gamboa are built off of what ? Beating the crap out of dead bodies ? Please.

If any of these guys went up to 130 lbs. and had the balls to face Adrien Broner, they would get the dog shit beaten out of them, believe that.

If blind hooks can land, imagine what sharp jabs and straight right hands would do to them.


Best post I've seen in a long time

Best believe Arums going to keep Gamboa away from broner.
If things keep the way they are broner will be the new mayweather and Gamboa the new pac..
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