Jan 19 2012, 12:52 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,410 Joined: 9-April 08 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 7,195 |
Floyd and Manny ain't dancing (He officially is a loser for ducking Floyd). So Floyd has said if Martinez can make 150 then he will fight Martinez. I guarantee Martinez takes the offer and gives Floyd one hell of a fight. This could be Floyd's toughest test to date. I give Floyd the fight by 2 rounds. Martinez gets hit a little too much but I wouldn't be surprised at the upset.
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Jan 19 2012, 01:02 AM
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CAESAR, H.M.I.C. Group: Root Admin Posts: 21,447 Joined: 20-October 00 Member No.: 2 |
Just to clarify, I believe the subject of Martinez was phrased to him as such: "In the past, Martinez has said he would come down to 150 for a fight with you. Would you be willing to fight him if that was the case?" To which, Floyd gave his response, basically saying yeah, if he would do that, then we could fight. But no, Floyd did not "call out" Martinez to come down to 150 for a fight. Just clearing that up before everyone gets excited and the rumors start flying. I've already seen a few folks take quotes from him regarding that and running with headlines like "Mayweather eyes Martinez". That is not the case as far as I know. Wouldn't mind seeing it, but at 150, Martinez might be a skeleton. That's a tough weight cut.
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Jan 19 2012, 01:10 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,410 Joined: 9-April 08 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 7,195 |
Just to clarify, I believe the subject of Martinez was phrased to him as such: "In the past, Martinez has said he would come down to 150 for a fight with you. Would you be willing to fight him if that was the case?" To which, Floyd gave his response, basically saying yeah, if he would do that, then we could fight. But no, Floyd did not "call out" Martinez to come down to 150 for a fight. Just clearing that up before everyone gets excited and the rumors start flying. I've already seen a few folks take quotes from him regarding that and running with headlines like "Mayweather eyes Martinez". That is not the case as far as I know. Wouldn't mind seeing it, but at 150, Martinez might be a skeleton. That's a tough weight cut. Preciate that Hype. I just saw a quotable on boxingscene so I thought I would bring it up since it's the only fight out of the four folks mentioned that actually has me intrigued. |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:25 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,504 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
Hopefully this fight happens at 54, because of course, only Pacquiao kills his opponents (weight wise) before the contract is signed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Now that I think about it, Martinez still has to get past Macklin in March (which wont be a breeze).
The ONLY way this fight happens, is if Macklin is paid some step aside money. Now if I see the headline, "Macklin Steps Aside", followed by a funny-lookin' photo of him, then that would give me an idea that a Floyd/Martinez fight was being talked up. |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:25 AM
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An inbred jackass... Group: Banned Posts: 360 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,971 |
I don't get why Floyd would take a fight with Martinez when they are against catchweights? I understand he isn't demanding Martinez to come down to 150 and that Martinez insisted he would come down that low but it's still a catchweight and Team Floyd is clearly against that idea.
This post has been edited by Seek: Jan 19 2012, 09:26 AM |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:36 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,474 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
I don't think Floyd should have to go up in weight at all. He's #1 P4P. People keep complaining about him trying to call shots. That's what you earn when you're the best. I wish some of these boxing fans knew the demands Sugar Ray Leonard had when he fought Hagler.
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Jan 19 2012, 09:42 AM
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An inbred jackass... Group: Banned Posts: 360 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,971 |
Just to clarify, I believe the subject of Martinez was phrased to him as such: "In the past, Martinez has said he would come down to 150 for a fight with you. Would you be willing to fight him if that was the case?" To which, Floyd gave his response, basically saying yeah, if he would do that, then we could fight. But no, Floyd did not "call out" Martinez to come down to 150 for a fight. Just clearing that up before everyone gets excited and the rumors start flying. I've already seen a few folks take quotes from him regarding that and running with headlines like "Mayweather eyes Martinez". That is not the case as far as I know. Wouldn't mind seeing it, but at 150, Martinez might be a skeleton. That's a tough weight cut. "If he(Martinez) can make 150, let's make it happen." The public might buy into what you're saying but whether or not Floyd "called out" Martinez to come down to 150 honestly doesn't matter. A catchweight is a catchweight and Floyd has taken pride in fighting guys at the real weight. He doesn't need a catchweight. Why doesn't he come out and say, I don't need him to come down to 150, i'll fight him at the real weight, at 154. I'll answer that for you. Because he won't fight Martinez at 154. If he did, I would say wow Floyd, you're a bad ass dude. But apparently, he has no problem fighting him at a catchweight of 150. This post has been edited by Seek: Jan 19 2012, 09:46 AM |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:57 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,504 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
"If he(Martinez) can make 150, let's make it happen." The public might buy into what you're saying but whether or not Floyd "called out" Martinez to come down to 150 honestly doesn't matter. A catchweight is a catchweight and Floyd has taken pride in fighting guys at the real weight. He doesn't need a catchweight. Why doesn't he come out and say, I don't need him to come down to 150, i'll fight him at the real weight, at 154. I'll answer that for you. Because he won't fight Martinez at 154. If he did, I would say wow Floyd, you're a bad ass dude. But apparently, he has no problem fighting him at a catchweight of 150. At this point, I dont see it truly happening anyway. Floyd has only attempted to fight at 154 once, and of course, that was against Oscar. He only weighed in at 150 or 151, and the fact that he only rehydrated to 150 lbs for the Ortiz fight, is very telling. Either he was in tip top shape, or he just isn't naturally that big. I dont know if Sergio can bring anything to the table that would rack up some PPV numbers, but who knows. Coming down to 150 would hurt Sergio, and honestly, Im wondering how he would perform at 154. Too much "dropping of the weight" for Sergio, not enough "willingness/monetary reasons" for Floyd to move up. |
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Jan 19 2012, 10:19 AM
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An inbred jackass... Group: Banned Posts: 360 Joined: 25-July 10 Member No.: 10,971 |
At this point, I dont see it truly happening anyway. Floyd has only attempted to fight at 154 once, and of course, that was against Oscar. He only weighed in at 150 or 151, and the fact that he only rehydrated to 150 lbs for the Ortiz fight, is very telling. Either he was in tip top shape, or he just isn't naturally that big. I dont know if Sergio can bring anything to the table that would rack up some PPV numbers, but who knows. Coming down to 150 would hurt Sergio, and honestly, Im wondering how he would perform at 154. Too much "dropping of the weight" for Sergio, not enough "willingness/monetary reasons" for Floyd to move up. You are still on that? "I dont know if sergio can bring anything to the table that would rack up some ppv numbers" ??? I'll bet you anything you want that this fight is a huge success even if it happens at 150. The only problem I have is with Floyd saying in the past that he doesn't need a catch weight or he beats guys at the real weight. I don't care whether he demands it or the opponent insists on it. He's been outspoken about Pacquiao fighting weakened fighters, no reason for Floyd to follow suit. A catchweight is a catchweight, do it at 154. This post has been edited by Seek: Jan 19 2012, 10:21 AM |
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Jan 19 2012, 10:42 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,504 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
You are still on that? "I dont know if sergio can bring anything to the table that would rack up some ppv numbers" ??? I'll bet you anything you want that this fight is a huge success even if it happens at 150. The only problem I have is with Floyd saying in the past that he doesn't need a catch weight or he beats guys at the real weight. I don't care whether he demands it or the opponent insists on it. He's been outspoken about Pacquiao fighting weakened fighters, no reason for Floyd to follow suit. A catchweight is a catchweight, do it at 154. Yep, Im still on that PPV numbers thing. Last time I checked, you had this undying faith in Robert Guerrero, and the fact that he and Mayweather would do great numbers as far as PPVs are concerned. Remember this???.... Agree to disagree. Guerrero brings a lot to the table imo. He can do a million buys. And its not just Guerrero, Floyd fighting is an event, there is alwats a huge buzz when it comes to Floyd, you put a mexican high output puncher, great talker with a great story in front of mayweather and you got urself an event. Guerrero can sell a fight 10x better than Ortiz. Gee...I wonder how Guerrero faded out of the picture so quickly, if he and Floyd could "do a million buys" and he could "sell a fight 10x better than Ortiz". The same pretty much goes for Sergio...he's knocked P. Willy out, beat Pavlik, and ran through a couple of harmless, unknown fighters with good records, then what? Nobody knows Sergio besides us. |
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