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[Jack 1000]

For all comments on tonight's double-header on Showtime. Keep everything in this thread.

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[Cheesey1]

Cloud should, but obviously won't give Campillo a rematch. Cloud might learn his lesson and improve, or is he gonna fare the same against other taller boxers who can box? Even though he didn't deserve the victory tonight, hopefully now we'll see him in the ring against the top guys in the division.
Campillo definitely deserves the big matches now, but will the top guys give them to him now?

Williams vs. Ishida? As others have said Williams is still asking to be caught "taking a picture." Definitely should stay at 154 and see what happens against the top guys in that division, but he's on his way out.



This post has been edited by Cheesey1: Feb 19 2012, 12:46 AM

[BrutalBodyShots]

Cloud and Williams both suck. Both are B players in their divisions at this point and have no business in the ring with the A guys. Just my thoughts after watching their uninspiring performances tonight.

[Cheesey1]

Cloud and Williams both suck. Both are B players in their divisions at this point and have no business in the ring with the A guys. Just my thoughts after watching their uninspiring performances tonight.

I'd like to see Cloud give this guy a rematch, so that we can see if the few times that he had Campillo in trouble were just lucky moments, or if he just didn't take Campillo seriously. I'd like to see Cloud fight again before I call him a B fighter.
Williams, obviously not the threat that he was and technically is stuck in fourth gear, but I'd also like to see him in one more fight at 154. He showed some decent lateral movement (Ishida didn't impress me, so maybe that's why the movement looked very effective at times) and he also put together some effective punches.

[BrutalBodyShots]

I'd like to see Cloud give this guy a rematch, so that we can see if the few times that he had Campillo in trouble were just lucky moments, or if he just didn't take Campillo seriously. I'd like to see Cloud fight again before I call him a B fighter.

I think when he hurt Campilo twice in the first it was a classic case of a guy getting caught cold by a puncher early in the fight. He took similar shots later in the fight that he just walked through once he warmed up to Cloud's power. I think if there were a rematch, Campilo is a little more cautious in the opening round (or two) and makes sure he doesn't get caught with anything real clean.

I call Cloud a B fighter because he showed absolutely zero ability to adjust in the ring last night. He had no plan B at all and didn't show any different wrinkles in his game once he started getting hit up for the last 33 minutes of the fight. He's lucky that Campilo has only stopped 7 of his opponents; had Campilo had a little more power Cloud would have either been stopped on those cuts getting worse or possibly by TKO from taking too much damage. Cloud's defense is also horrible. He was getting hit with arm punches, Street Fighter II style uppercuts from 6' away, etc. He has a LOT of work to do in the gym.

This post has been edited by BrutalBodyShots: Feb 19 2012, 12:43 PM