Feb 20 2012, 06:01 AM
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The Consultant Group: Root Admin Posts: 8,845 Joined: 2-December 02 Member No.: 14 |
I always hear when their are really bad decisions in boxing, from either refs or judges, they are usually broken down into one of three categories:
Incompetence Favoritism Corruption Here is my take on each issue: Incompetence: It happens with officials who do not have the experience to judge or ref fights. However, I believe that if most fights could be attributed to incompetence, you would have almost a 50/50 split with "stupid" votes going to journeymen fighters and the other half of the time, marquee fighters not getting the nod. If incompetence was the issue, we would be seeing more fighters with weaker records getting the benefit of the doubt from officials. Favoritism: In my view, the biggest problem in boxing. Judges often lean for the hometown fighter, the undefeated fighter with the big name, or the boxer with a flamboyant and powerful prompter and too often fear the consequences when they don't. Ref Octavio Meyran defended his officiating in the Douglas-Tyson fight over the controversial "long" count incident. Don King, Jose Sulaiman of the WBC, wanted Douglas stripped because they could not stand the idea of a 42-1 long shoot winning over the at the time best P4P fighter in the world. When Octavio Mayran was NEVER assigned to another high profile fight something just did not seem right with that decision. The scoring of the two Japanese judges carding a draw, and having Tyson a point ahead and the negative attitude the powers that be took toward Buster for those 36 hours or so before everyone agreed he was champion, show political bias that can not be forgotten. Corruption: It's been in boxing since the beginning of time. Do you think it is just as rampant as it was in the 50's-60's when the mob controlled boxing? What specific instances of proven corruption have you seen in boxing that go beyond incompetence or Favoritism? You can go back to Jake Lamotta's sworn testimony for his fight against Billy Fox, where he told a Senate sub-committee that he had thrown the fight and had to, to get a shot at Marcel Cerdan. Does boxing have a new kind of mob with the alphabet federations, Arum and King, non-respected weight classes? How do you prove corruption in boxing to get a conviction in a court of law? Jack |
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Feb 22 2012, 11:51 PM
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Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 23-April 10 Member No.: 10,865 |
That's why it's so hard to bet on boxing. Even if you pick the winner, it's not likely that he'll be declared as one.
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Jack 1000 Poll: What is The Single Biggest Issue Leading to Bad Officiating in Boxing? Feb 20 2012, 06:01 AM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Feb 20 2012, 07:01 AM)... Feb 20 2012, 08:09 AM
Cshel86 Good post Noles!
I also stopped right at favo... Feb 20 2012, 11:55 AM
Jack 1000 QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 20 2012, 10:55 AM) G... Feb 20 2012, 02:28 PM
mgrover favouritism, probably because it's the easiest... Feb 20 2012, 03:05 PM
happygocampy What i wanna know is, was boxing always like this?... Feb 21 2012, 08:10 AM
Jack 1000 QUOTE (happygocampy @ Feb 21 2012, 07:10 ... Feb 21 2012, 01:13 PM
Franchize I think there was less need for corruption back in... Feb 21 2012, 10:14 AM
Cshel86 Did anybody get that feeling of an upset, during t... Feb 21 2012, 01:46 PM
Plah QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:46 PM) D... Feb 21 2012, 05:04 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Plah @ Feb 21 2012, 05:04 PM) Felt... Feb 22 2012, 10:44 AM
Jack 1000 While image and marketing of a fighter from a big ... Feb 21 2012, 02:05 PM
Cshel86 QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Feb 21 2012, 02:05 PM)... Feb 21 2012, 02:26 PM
wolterb Not to disregard all of these reasons - but I thin... Feb 21 2012, 03:17 PM![]() ![]() |
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