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Feb 22 2012, 01:41 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 76 |
I don't mind too much if guys quit for the right reasons. However, the guys that bother me are the ones that quit fighting and run until the goal bell. Example: after Mosley got popped by Manny he basically quit.
I'd rather a fighter not answer the bell and quit on the stool than to do some crap like that. |
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Feb 22 2012, 08:46 AM
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Junior Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,177 Joined: 5-October 11 From: Dayton, OH Member No.: 13,299 |
I don't mind too much if guys quit for the right reasons. However, the guys that bother me are the ones that quit fighting and run until the goal bell. Example: after Mosley got popped by Manny he basically quit. I'd rather a fighter not answer the bell and quit on the stool than to do some crap like that. Well, the precursor to that behavior was exactly 2 min. deep in the 2nd round of the Mayweather fight. |
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Feb 22 2012, 09:27 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,672 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
I don't mind too much if guys quit for the right reasons. However, the guys that bother me are the ones that quit fighting and run until the goal bell. Example: after Mosley got popped by Manny he basically quit. I'd rather a fighter not answer the bell and quit on the stool than to do some crap like that. Now you really have me thinking which is the lesser of the two evils...quitting on the stool, or giving viewers a false sense of hope until the final bell. I agree though...a guy running his way to the final bell is annoying, especially if the charges are going to show up on my next month's bill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Quitting on the stool, has his perks, very few though. At least the trainer can take the blame for the fight being stopped in the corner...basically saying that he was looking out for his fighter's safety, while the fighter still wanted to continue (though it wouldn't be the truth). Perfect damage control... |
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Feb 22 2012, 07:11 PM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 76 |
Well, the precursor to that behavior was exactly 2 min. deep in the 2nd round of the Mayweather fight. True. Now you really have me thinking which is the lesser of the two evils...quitting on the stool, or giving viewers a false sense of hope until the final bell. I agree though...a guy running his way to the final bell is annoying, especially if the charges are going to show up on my next month's bill (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Quitting on the stool, has his perks, very few though. At least the trainer can take the blame for the fight being stopped in the corner...basically saying that he was looking out for his fighter's safety, while the fighter still wanted to continue (though it wouldn't be the truth). Perfect damage control... Brother I will let you make your own determination on that. But as for me, I don't like my time to be wasted. If you're not going to fight then go sit down somewhere! And stop wasting everyone's time. |
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Feb 22 2012, 07:37 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,672 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
I don't like my time to be wasted. If you're not going to fight then go sit down somewhere! And stop wasting everyone's time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Exactly! Either take the punch that's going to dismantle you, or give it up! No need to leave us hoping! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Feb 29 2012, 08:21 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
Duran Vitaly Cotto Kostya Sam Peter Tyson Smoke Gainer Sonny Liston Ray Robinson The Atomic Bull Victor Ortiz Devon Alexander? Kermit Cintron DLH? Rubio Luis Ramon Campas Robbie Peden Acelino Freitas Mohamed Abdulaev Genaro Hernandez JC Chavez Antonio Demarco Sharmba Golota cotto, robinson and mccall never quit. |
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Feb 29 2012, 08:23 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
First, define "quitting". Then, answer why there's no DLH vs. Hopkins or Kermit Cintron on that list? If you're referencing the Chris Byrd fight, kinda hard to throw Vitali in that mix, as a shoulder injury prevented him from continuing. From what I remember, he was getting the best of Byrd in that fight. u need to go back and watch that one over. byrd made him miss big time...he was gassed and byrd was turning it on. |
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Feb 29 2012, 08:24 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
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Feb 29 2012, 08:25 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
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Feb 29 2012, 08:27 PM
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Light Heavyweight Group: Members Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-May 11 From: killa kali Member No.: 12,336 |
i guess what this list shows me is that there are different degrees of quitting. each situation is different. some are more acceptable than others. many of the guys who have "quit" are some of the greatest warriors of all time. duran quit, not because of getting beat up, but because of frustration. cotto and arguello (pryor rematch) fought with all their heart and just got beat down. morales was shot and weight drained and went to war for 3 rounds and knew that he didn't have it anymore and couldn't win. those guys may have quit but their not quitters to me. then their are guys like bruce seldon who was scared to death and faked getting knocked down vs. tyson. golota quit from fear vs. tyson too. a lot of tyson opponents did. devon alexander fought scared and quit from a cut vs. bradley. cloud was getting his ass kicked much worse and had a much worse cut and he told the doctor "do not stop this fight." alexander put on an acting job with the doctor. those examples of quitting are much less acceptable to me. very good post. |
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