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[daprofessor]

i've said it once...i'll say it again....bhop has bitch in him. i am totally shocked that he took this rematch. he's getting his ass beat if he comes to fight.

[mgrover]

people see the side of the coin were hopkins bullshitted an injury to get out of a "tough" fight, i see the otherside of dawson picking him up and dropping him, funny how in the interview hes quick to bring up his record of never been deducted a point this and blah blah blah, an innocent man never needs to explain he lets the video do the talking, but obviously the video isn't in his favour...

[daprofessor]

people see the side of the coin were hopkins bullshitted an injury to get out of a "tough" fight, i see the otherside of dawson picking him up and dropping him, funny how in the interview hes quick to bring up his record of never been deducted a point this and blah blah blah, an innocent man never needs to explain he lets the video do the talking, but obviously the video isn't in his favour...

he did the right thing in my eyes. the ref wasn't going to help him...it's a tactic that he gets away with all the time. chad put an end to it and bhop went out like a little bitch. i can't see that changing in the next fight. dawson has bhops number. he may be the first person to stop him if bhop decides to man up. there's a reason he has used all these cheating tactics that everyone wants to label as gamesmanship or crafty veteran tricks...i call it cowardice and insecurity because if he was confident in his skills and abilities he wouldn't have to resort to that bullshit.

[mgrover]

he did the right thing in my eyes. the ref wasn't going to help him...it's a tactic that he gets away with all the time. chad put an end to it and bhop went out like a little bitch. i can't see that changing in the next fight. dawson has bhops number. he may be the first person to stop him if bhop decides to man up. there's a reason he has used all these cheating tactics that everyone wants to label as gamesmanship or crafty veteran tricks...i call it cowardice and insecurity because if he was confident in his skills and abilities he wouldn't have to resort to that bullshit.

no matter what anyone says to me, you cannot justify picking someone up and dropping them in a boxing match, you can bring in all the angles, all the cameras, but he picked him up and dropped him on his ass, plenty of other boxers have been in that position and they still managed to do fine, the veteran tricks, or cheating or whatever, everyone does from mayweather to hopkins (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[BrutalBodyShots]

I'll be at the rematch live in AC, scooped up tickets right when they went on sale noon Thurs. Anyone else going?

[BrutalBodyShots]

I love how people keep referencing their "last fight" when it was what, 4 minutes long? Like 4 minutes has anything to do with how a 36 minute fight would go.

Hopkins has looked like shit for 4 minutes against lots of his opponents and more often than not he ends up beating them.

[daprofessor]

I love how people keep referencing their "last fight" when it was what, 4 minutes long? Like 4 minutes has anything to do with how a 36 minute fight would go.

Hopkins has looked like shit for 4 minutes against lots of his opponents and more often than not he ends up beating them.

sure it was only 4 minutes...but what about all the years bhop acted like dawson didn't exist or wanted no parts of him? that has to count for something. bhop never wanted to fight him and he and his ppl have let that be known on several occasions.

[Cshel86]

what about all the years bhop acted like dawson didn't exist or wanted no parts of him? that has to count for something. bhop never wanted to fight him and he and his ppl have let that be known on several occasions.

For the record, he acted as if Dawson didn't existed, because monetarily, he didn't. Hopkins was staring down bigger fights, and Dawson wasn't even on the radar. Of course he would've been a big challenge for him, but for a guy fighting on father time with big name opponents in his division, can you blame him?

Dawson was too busy fighting old men, which didn't help his career at all. He was still green at the time, seriously. Imagine what little that would've done for Bernard's career back then, and compare it to the lousy numbers that their recent fight did. Besides, Hopkins had JUST broken a huge record in the sport, which gave his career another breath of fresh air, but still didn't help the numbers.

So it's safe to say that Bernard still needs big names to get paid, which Dawson still isn't (a big name). Funny how a guy like Pascal was put in front of Dawson, and all he could manage to do was get thrown off his game, and people still try to give him credit for that last-minute comeback that he pulled out of his ass. For somebody who REALLY wanted a Hopkins fight, he did poor job convincing us.

If anything, Dawson needs to be thankful that the fight even took place to begin with. Lastly, he needs to be thankful that it ended the way it did, so now the rematch gets more exposure...something that Chad is incapable of producing with his elementary-level dialogue.

[iKeNjiro]

For the record, he acted as if Dawson didn't existed, because monetarily, he didn't. Hopkins was staring down bigger fights, and Dawson wasn't even on the radar. Of course he would've been a big challenge for him, but for a guy fighting on father time with big name opponents in his division, can you blame him?

Dawson was too busy fighting old men, which didn't help his career at all. He was still green at the time, seriously. Imagine what little that would've done for Bernard's career back then, and compare it to the lousy numbers that their recent fight did. Besides, Hopkins had JUST broken a huge record in the sport, which gave his career another breath of fresh air, but still didn't help the numbers.

So it's safe to say that Bernard still needs big names to get paid, which Dawson still isn't (a big name). Funny how a guy like Pascal was put in front of Dawson, and all he could manage to do was get thrown off his game, and people still try to give him credit for that last-minute comeback that he pulled out of his ass. For somebody who REALLY wanted a Hopkins fight, he did poor job convincing us.

If anything, Dawson needs to be thankful that the fight even took place to begin with. Lastly, he needs to be thankful that it ended the way it did, so now the rematch gets more exposure...something that Chad is incapable of producing with his elementary-level dialogue.

When did we as boxers, and boxing fans start to care about what you said in the bold?
Who cares how he talks and what not or acting to sale a fight.
yea Dawson upsets me when he hurts guys and does nothing, or when he looks lost in his mind...
But the Man has never cheated and always come to fight and win, takes great shots
what is with the disliking of Dawson?

Hopkins is a cheater and known cheater...actually I am tired of writing the same shit over and over lol

we can bet on the fight whoever wants to

Dawson wins and wins big...

[Cshel86]

When did we as boxers, and boxing fans start to care about what you said in the bold?

Im not saying that we ALL care about a fighter's ability to sell themselves and so forth, but when the sport moved to premium networks and PPV, THAT'S when it became an issue. Seriously, why do you think Dawson has been calling Hopkins out all these years? Hopkins was the top guy in the division, well, close enough anyway.

The same went for Mayweather back in the day when he was calling out Oscar, and Shane did the same. C'mon, these are the pros, these guys dont call these guys out to show that they are "the best". They do it for a payday, and hope to cross over in the public. Some guys can fight the top names and still not be a huge star (i.e. Mosley after the Oscar fights).

Thats why I say that Dawson got this fight by default, because honestly, there's no one else left in the LHW division, that can bring him the type of money that he wants. Im not saying that Bernard is a huge draw, but he's the biggest draw at LHW, and there was nothing left for him in the division.

what is with the disliking of Dawson?

What is there to like about him? His chest was full of hot air and confidence after the fight, but leading up to the fight, he carried on with this dry dialogue and uncertainty. Had he not tried to beat Hopkins being dirty in the fight, then maybe we wouldn't be discussing this rematch.

He scooped the man up and pushed him off. Sadly, their feet were tangled, and Hopkins took a dive, and the fight ended. So for him to walk around like he did something, or for people to say that those 2 rounds told a story, is ridiculous.

Oh yeah...let's not forget how bold he was in saying that he didn't want a rematch once he was crowned champ after that travesty. Honestly, he was okay with the way it ended and wanted no parts of Bernard. THEN, when the ruling was overturned and Hopkins got his title back, Chad started screaming for a rematch. Funny that this is a guy that everyone chooses to support though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[BrutalBodyShots]

Hopkins doesn't fear Dawson in the least. Pascal is faster, hits harder, is more awkward and is more explosive than Dawson and Hopkins beat him twice (yes, twice). Pascal possessed similar traits to the undefeated Taylor that also gave Hopkins problems.

Dawson doesn't have anything Hopkins hasn't seen before. I picture Dawson struggling and having flat spots against Pascal, Tarver, Johnson etc and honestly I don't see how he can be favored to beat Hopkins.

[daprofessor]

Hopkins doesn't fear Dawson in the least. Pascal is faster, hits harder, is more awkward and is more explosive than Dawson and Hopkins beat him twice (yes, twice). Pascal possessed similar traits to the undefeated Taylor that also gave Hopkins problems.

Dawson doesn't have anything Hopkins hasn't seen before. I picture Dawson struggling and having flat spots against Pascal, Tarver, Johnson etc and honestly I don't see how he can be favored to beat Hopkins.

pascal fights off the front foot and is much easier to hit than chad. pascal is also a one trick pony who does the same shit over and over. dawson is more elusive and more skilled.

[BrutalBodyShots]

pascal fights off the front foot and is much easier to hit than chad. pascal is also a one trick pony who does the same shit over and over. dawson is more elusive and more skilled.

...and Dawson lost more rounds than he won against Pascal, so what does that say? If a "one trick pony" didn't have trouble winning rounds against Dawson, how do you think a guy like Hopkins that is able to adapt and certainly has many more tricks in his bag will do? Pascal, Tarver, Johnson - these guys all landed on Dawson... and Hopkins' accuracy/timing is light years better than those guys.

So, in your opinion why did Pascal do well against Dawson (aside from running close to E at the end) You say Dawson is more elusive, more skilled, is harder to hit and his more versatile than Pascal. Yet he lost. Please explain.

[daprofessor]

...and Dawson lost more rounds than he won against Pascal, so what does that say? If a "one trick pony" didn't have trouble winning rounds against Dawson, how do you think a guy like Hopkins that is able to adapt and certainly has many more tricks in his bag will do? Pascal, Tarver, Johnson - these guys all landed on Dawson... and Hopkins' accuracy/timing is light years better than those guys.

So, in your opinion why did Pascal do well against Dawson (aside from running close to E at the end) You say Dawson is more elusive, more skilled, is harder to hit and his more versatile than Pascal. Yet he lost. Please explain.

it says styles make fights. what matters in my eyes is that he had pascal figured out in the end...and would have ktfo'd him if the dr and the ref didn't save him in his home town.

hopkins knows why dawson isn't the easier opponent. it's why he didn't fight him all that time. it's also why he faked injury to avoid an ass whoopin. when the rematch happens...u'll see what dawson, bhop and myself already know...chad is going to whoop him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[BrutalBodyShots]

We've already hashed out the you think he faked the injury thing - we're all entitled to our opinions. We'll talk on the 29th of April.