IPB  

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
> Showtime@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT):Salido vs. Lopez II-SPOILERS 15 Mins Later, Topics Merged
Jack 1000
post Mar 10 2012, 07:04 PM
Post #1


The Consultant


Group: Root Admin
Posts: 9,445
Joined: 2-December 02
Member No.: 14



For all on-going and post-fight reactions to tonight's fight. Keep everything in this thread.

Jack

Administrator
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Cshel86
post Mar 11 2012, 06:58 PM
Post #2


"The Meanest Nice Guy"


Group: Moderators
Posts: 12,211
Joined: 11-May 11
From: Wherever Greatness is Bred
Member No.: 12,050



QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 11 2012, 05:34 PM) *
Rounds 8 & 9 were NOT for kids!!!!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 11 2012, 06:36 PM) *
Three rounds for Lopez 4, 5. and 9.
I actually gave Lopez the 9th round because I thought his come-back had been so courageous going on even terms. But it wasn't like a Ward-Gatti I round 9 where both had power on their shots, both guys exhausted there power and threw a lot of punches that didn't have the kind of snap and impact. It was still a great round. But I have seen more ROTY where fighters have more pop in their punches. These guys showed great heart and balls by looking for the pop in their punches, but they were both very tired after the 9th, which makes Salido's great 10th round KO all the more amazing.


I actually gave the 9th to Salido because Lopez was still taking those SAME punches, and he was even countering lopez while his back was against the ropes. I can also see how you gave it to Lopez because of the come-back effort. 

As we all saw...Lopez go the worst of the 9th, as evidence by his walk back to the corner after the bell rang. I like the effort from both guys in the 9th though...sick stuff!

On a serious tip though, (no racial stereotyping intended), but rounds like the 9th are better suited for MEXCIANS ONLY, when it comes down to these PR vs Mexico wars. I've seen several fights that turn to that pace, and the PR fighter got the short end of the stick (as we saw how Lopez stumbled back to his corner after the 9th).

Point is, Mexicans fight like this ALL the time. Most PR fighters that I see, dish out punishment well and fight with finesse, but tend to break down when it's reciprocated. Not that this isn't the case for most fighters, but Mexican fighters (for the most part) take these punches with pride.

This Mexico vs PR rivalry has see-sawed over the years, but when it comes to taking punishment...its dead obvious whose more willing to take that route in order to see the finish line.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jack 1000
post Mar 11 2012, 07:46 PM
Post #3


The Consultant


Group: Root Admin
Posts: 9,445
Joined: 2-December 02
Member No.: 14



QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 11 2012, 06:58 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



I actually gave the 9th to Salido because Lopez was still taking those SAME punches, and he was even countering lopez while his back was against the ropes. I can also see how you gave it to Lopez because of the come-back effort. 

As we all saw...Lopez go the worst of the 9th, as evidence by his walk back to the corner after the bell rang. I like the effort from both guys in the 9th though...sick stuff!

On a serious tip though, (no racial stereotyping intended), but rounds like the 9th are better suited for MEXCIANS ONLY, when it comes down to these PR vs Mexico wars. I've seen several fights that turn to that pace, and the PR fighter got the short end of the stick (as we saw how Lopez stumbled back to his corner after the 9th).

Point is, Mexicans fight like this ALL the time. Most PR fighters that I see, dish out punishment well and fight with finesse, but tend to break down when it's reciprocated. Not that this isn't the case for most fighters, but Mexican fighters (for the most part) take these punches with pride.

This Mexico vs PR rivalry has see-sawed over the years, but when it comes to taking punishment...its dead obvious whose more willing to take that route in order to see the finish line.


I had it 6-3 for Salido. Did count the 5th round as a 10-8 for Lopez, just barely. So Salido ahead 86-84. I could see the first round going to Lopez or being even, but most judges don't like even rounds, so the 85-85 is pushing it The other two cards that had it close but for Lopez, was some home cooking there. I don't want to see a third fight. Salido has his number. However, he's got that journeymen type record, even though he is a damn good fighter, Salido is probably gonna have to KO or TKO guys because judges are not going to give a fighter breaks in close rounds with those losses against him.

Jack
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- Jack 1000   Showtime@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT):Salido vs. Lopez II-SPOILERS 15 Mins Later   Mar 10 2012, 07:04 PM
- - Cshel86   Man this Herrera/Gonzalez fight is poo-poo Nobody...   Mar 10 2012, 09:25 PM
- - Cshel86   Wow, just when I say something, Gonzalez landed a ...   Mar 10 2012, 09:27 PM
- - Cshel86   Herrera got popped with that left hand the WHOLE r...   Mar 10 2012, 09:31 PM
- - Cshel86   Herrera gets stopped in the 8th...he was getting h...   Mar 10 2012, 09:39 PM
- - Cshel86   Where is everybody???   Mar 10 2012, 10:06 PM
- - Cheesey1   Tuned in. Not focused on the Concepcio/Garcia bou...   Mar 10 2012, 10:18 PM
- - Cshel86   I gave the first to Garcia, though not much happen...   Mar 10 2012, 10:22 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:22 PM) I...   Mar 10 2012, 10:28 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:28 PM) ...   Mar 10 2012, 10:29 PM
- - Cshel86   Gave the 2nd and 3rd to Garcia as well. Concepcion...   Mar 10 2012, 10:27 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:27 PM) G...   Mar 10 2012, 10:30 PM
- - HaydelHammer   so far this is your typical older guy I'm not ...   Mar 10 2012, 10:35 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 10:35 ...   Mar 10 2012, 10:40 PM
- - Cshel86   Man, Garcia's ability to keep his cool at ALL ...   Mar 10 2012, 10:36 PM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:36 PM) M...   Mar 10 2012, 10:41 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 10:41 ...   Mar 10 2012, 10:43 PM
- - Cheesey1   Damn you Tarver, i was just about to say that Garc...   Mar 10 2012, 10:39 PM
- - Cheesey1   Boom-sha-lak-lak boom!   Mar 10 2012, 10:42 PM
- - Cshel86   Concepcion is still a sneaky little fucker, and he...   Mar 10 2012, 10:42 PM
- - HaydelHammer   there U have it...as soon as somebody broke out of...   Mar 10 2012, 10:44 PM
- - Cshel86   Fuck Strike Force!   Mar 10 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Cshel86   You cant tell me that Chavez Sr. doesn't still...   Mar 10 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 10:57 PM) Y...   Mar 10 2012, 11:07 PM
- - HaydelHammer   why is the champ that already came into your backy...   Mar 10 2012, 11:00 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:00 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:02 PM
||- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:02 PM) I...   Mar 10 2012, 11:07 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:00 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:08 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:07 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:12 PM
- - Cheesey1   Good first round. 1st round, basically even to me...   Mar 10 2012, 11:13 PM
- - Cshel86   Why is that fuckin' hag out there (Lopez' ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:13 PM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:13 PM) W...   Mar 10 2012, 11:17 PM
- - Cheesey1   Salido grabbed the advantage in round 2.   Mar 10 2012, 11:17 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:17 PM) ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:18 PM
- - Cheesey1   I haven't watched that many of Lopez' matc...   Mar 10 2012, 11:20 PM
- - Cshel86   Juanma is relaxed, no doubt, but some of these pun...   Mar 10 2012, 11:21 PM
- - mrchitown   Gus Johnson is obviously enoying Salido's perf...   Mar 10 2012, 11:22 PM
- - Cshel86   I gave the 4th to Lopez...   Mar 10 2012, 11:26 PM
- - HaydelHammer   If Juan just boxed this fight is a CAKEWALK...but ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:26 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:26 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:31 PM
- - Cshel86   Damn both of them got hurt at the end of that roun...   Mar 10 2012, 11:29 PM
- - HaydelHammer   nice shot.   Mar 10 2012, 11:29 PM
- - Cshel86   6th goes to Salido...he just cant get away from ov...   Mar 10 2012, 11:33 PM
- - HaydelHammer   Juan needs to smarten up man. damn. very frustrati...   Mar 10 2012, 11:38 PM
- - Cshel86   Again I repeat...Juanma will have brain damage by ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:40 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:40 PM) A...   Mar 10 2012, 11:43 PM
- - Cshel86   "Nuts and Guts folks"!!! - G...   Mar 10 2012, 11:43 PM
- - HaydelHammer   I don't care who wins this fight.....this is b...   Mar 10 2012, 11:43 PM
- - Cheesey1   They're letting Lopez grab the back of Salido...   Mar 10 2012, 11:45 PM
- - Cshel86   The 9th round was a measuring stick to show us who...   Mar 10 2012, 11:46 PM
- - Cshel86   Nooooooo!!!!!!! I hate...   Mar 10 2012, 11:47 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:47 PM) N...   Mar 10 2012, 11:51 PM
- - mrchitown   Salido rocked Juanma!! Damn that shot was ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:48 PM
- - Cheesey1   Congrats to Salido. Did Lopez sell himself short ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:49 PM
- - HaydelHammer   and there U have it....if he'd boxed...he woul...   Mar 10 2012, 11:49 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:49 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:50 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:49 ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:55 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:55 PM) ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:56 PM
||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:56 PM) H...   Mar 10 2012, 11:58 PM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:55 PM) ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:58 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:58 ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:07 AM
|- - HaydelHammer   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 11 2012, 12:07 AM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:18 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 11 2012, 12:18 ...   Mar 11 2012, 09:25 PM
- - Cshel86   Im waiting to see what absent-minded motherfucker ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:54 PM
- - Cheesey1   Haha, what's up with the scorecards?   Mar 10 2012, 11:57 PM
- - MaxPayne   Those scorecards are beyond disgraceful. What the ...   Mar 10 2012, 11:59 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 10 2012, 11:59 PM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:01 AM
||- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 11 2012, 12:01 AM) T...   Mar 11 2012, 12:06 AM
||- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 11 2012, 12:06 AM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:08 AM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 11 2012, 12:06 AM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:14 AM
|- - wolterb   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 11 2012, 12:59 AM) ...   Mar 12 2012, 05:49 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:57 PM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:00 AM
- - Cshel86   Did anybody see how Juanma's neck shifted side...   Mar 11 2012, 12:08 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 11 2012, 12:08 AM) D...   Mar 11 2012, 12:11 AM
- - Franchize   The casual fan in me liked this war. However, the ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:09 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 11 2012, 12:09 AM)...   Mar 11 2012, 12:33 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 11 2012, 01:09 AM)...   Mar 12 2012, 01:26 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Franchize @ Mar 11 2012, 12:09 AM)...   Mar 11 2012, 12:20 AM
- - HaydelHammer   dude got stopped in his hometown twice. will he ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:33 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 11 2012, 12:33 ...   Mar 11 2012, 12:42 AM
- - Hotsauce   nuts and guts baby   Mar 11 2012, 12:36 AM
- - checkleft   Found my round of the year. Incredible fight What...   Mar 11 2012, 01:12 AM
- - Jack 1000   I only gave Lopez three rounds. Very good fight. A...   Mar 11 2012, 04:06 AM
|- - BigFightFan   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 11 2012, 04:06 AM)...   Mar 11 2012, 10:12 AM
- - bnoles4life   Rounds 8 & 9 were NOT for kids!!!...   Mar 11 2012, 04:34 PM
- - Jack 1000   Three rounds for Lopez 4, 5. and 9. I actually ga...   Mar 11 2012, 05:36 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 11 2012, 05:34 P...   Mar 11 2012, 06:58 PM
|- - Jack 1000   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 11 2012, 06:58 PM) ...   Mar 11 2012, 07:46 PM
- - BigFightFan   Lopez did not win round 9, he was throwing punches...   Mar 11 2012, 07:59 PM
- - checkleft   I gave lopez the first.. but after that it was har...   Mar 12 2012, 12:35 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 11 2012, 08:46 PM)...   Mar 12 2012, 08:01 AM
- - Franchize   I hope I didn't kill anyone's buzz with my...   Mar 12 2012, 09:31 AM
- - glennhallet   After watching three less than stellar fights on S...   Mar 12 2012, 06:37 PM
- - BigFightFan   I agree with that article 100% there was no contro...   Mar 12 2012, 07:39 PM
- - Franchize   Word is Lopez got suspended a year for his rant at...   Mar 13 2012, 09:13 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th April 2014 - 06:45 PM