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Jack 1000
post Mar 10 2012, 07:04 PM
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For all on-going and post-fight reactions to tonight's fight. Keep everything in this thread.

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HaydelHammer
post Mar 10 2012, 11:49 PM
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and there U have it....if he'd boxed...he would have won IMO EASY.....let his PR pride get in the way and got his ass saved from his own heart.

he fought the other guys gameplan imo. He needs to smarten up or he won't last long. Brain dead as you guys have mentioned IMO.
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post Mar 10 2012, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:49 PM) *
and there U have it....if he'd boxed...he would have won IMO EASY.....let his PR pride get in the way and got his ass saved from his own heart.

he fought the other guys gameplan imo. He needs to smarten up or he won't last long. Brain dead as you guys have mentioned IMO.

I'd watch a third one and I think that Lopez could do something, but he'd have to stick to the boxing and leave the slugging for Salido.

Haha, what the hell are these accusations of gambling by Lopez?!?

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post Mar 10 2012, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 10 2012, 11:55 PM) *
I'd watch a third one and I think that Lopez could do something, but he'd have to stick to the boxing and leave the slugging for Salido.

Haha, what the hell are these accusations of gambling by Lopez?!?


Juan is a dumbass....one thing I love about guys like Floyd and Roy Jones in his prime....the BANKED rounds...they fought strategic and conserved energy so even if they felt the other guy tried to push they pushed HARDER...NOT fight the other guys gameplan.

Juan needs to understand he is NOT trinidad and he does NOT have that eraser punching POWER to end a fight through attrition.
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post Mar 11 2012, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 10 2012, 11:58 PM) *
Juan is a dumbass....one thing I love about guys like Floyd and Roy Jones in his prime....the BANKED rounds...they fought strategic and conserved energy so even if they felt the other guy tried to push they pushed HARDER...NOT fight the other guys gameplan.

Juan needs to understand he is NOT trinidad and he does NOT have that eraser punching POWER to end a fight through attrition.

Agreed.

I haven't followed Lopez' career, but I wonder if this false sense of bad-assness is the result of cushy match making.
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post Mar 11 2012, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 11 2012, 12:07 AM) *
Agreed.

I haven't followed Lopez' career, but I wonder if this false sense of bad-assness is the result of cushy match making.



Right ..there is a difference in knowing you can dig deep vs being told you are tought. If I'd fought salido twice I'd know where I stood..I'd know he is going the mile, he wil be there in the end, he is wanting to counter etc..that being said i'd make him pay, I'd mix in some boxing, confuse him, drop some speed counters on him to confuse him, movement, punish him.

the corner of JuanMan did a terrible job. He is not an eraser type puncher as Tito at all imo. Box him and finish him late off him getting un discipline.
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post Mar 11 2012, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (HaydelHammer @ Mar 11 2012, 12:18 AM) *
Right ..there is a difference in knowing you can dig deep vs being told you are tought. If I'd fought salido twice I'd know where I stood..I'd know he is going the mile, he wil be there in the end, he is wanting to counter etc..that being said i'd make him pay, I'd mix in some boxing, confuse him, drop some speed counters on him to confuse him, movement, punish him.

the corner of JuanMan did a terrible job. He is not an eraser type puncher as Tito at all imo. Box him and finish him late off him getting un discipline.

Yup. He caught Salido with that nice clip on the jaw and with movement and placement, he could've replicated that several times. Oh well, Salido won and proved that on both nights he's been the better man.
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