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BoxingEinstein
post Mar 14 2012, 04:10 PM
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Although I understand Gamboa's situation and having a dispute with BobFather Arum but he should have known that The BobFather would pull some "catch" on either his contracts, money, deals, and fights. Look at Pacquiao, Clottey, DelaHoya and what happened to Mayweather. Gamboa had to know somewhat of what he was getting into and there were reports in the past that Gamboa wasn't so fond of his past deals with Top Rank in his fights. To pull this bullshit on his fans and hardcore boxing fans is nothing short than disrespectful. He should have outlined the clear deal he wanted to The BobFather instead of calling out Rios and asking for one of the press conferences to be put in his hometown then look at the deal and not decide to show up.

I like Gamboa as a fighter and he is extraordinarily talented and a athletic specimen but I'm tired of fighters bitching about their deals when they should get their own lawyers who can read them the fine print of deals and contracts instead of putting everything to their promoter or manager. You can't trust neither promoter or manager when it comes to the sport of boxing. Gamboa's ignorance and attitude of not researching costed the boxing fans a fight that many wanted to see and would have paid good hard earned money for.

With that said, fuck Gamboa and give us Rios-Marquez or DeMarco-Rios.
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post Mar 15 2012, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 07:40 AM) *
I mean if Gamboa accepted an advance, didn't Arum get him to sign anything pertaining to his purse from the fight, if so then why would Gamboa be now unhappy with the amount contained in the fight contract.

Slumpage, you wrote a lot of stuff, but this part stuck out. The fact that Gamboa has taken an advance is very telling, because as we all know, people dont advances unless they need the money. Not only should he be unhappy with the contract details of this fight, he should be unhappy with himself for managing his money in the manner that he does.

We all wonder why Manny will NEVER leave TR, because this guy has taken several advances from Bob, Im talking millions...especially to support his political venture. So I laughed my ass off at the fact that he said this was going to be his last fight. Of course we saw that story change quickly.

Bottom line is, Yuri's not getting any younger, he still hasn't had a breakout fight in his career, and he's staring litigation in the face. Again, he doesn't have what it takes to dance with the devil (Arum). The same way Arum built him up, he will tear him down twice as fast, and make sure that he doesn't have a pot to piss in.

Oh yeah, for everybody that's saying that they're happy that Gamboa stood up for himself...please! He damn sure picked the picture perfect time to do so...while under contract. Now, had this been his last fight under the TR banner, then he should've taken it, and THEN expressed his displeasure AFTERWARDS, when talks of renewing the contract came up.

Let's wave goodbye to the Cuban fighting machine with no following, while he gets thrown off the TR boat. Rios is Arum's next product, and he actually has a following. If Gamboa did anything in this situation, he only made it easier for Arum to fuck him and put him back on the streets with nothing.

QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Mar 15 2012, 07:42 AM) *
Even though the fight was announced I still had a funny feeling about it..

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QUOTE (Thickback @ Mar 15 2012, 08:20 AM) *
We saw Timothy Bradley pull out of the Khan fight for seemingly the same reason. He was publicly prosecuted but now his move is oaying off. Maybe Gamboa is of the same mindframe Bradley was last year.

The difference is, Bradley didn't sign anything for a Khan fight (that I know of), he simply refused to take the fight. We see how long his litigation lasted...very brief. Though Yuri denied any talks of signing with Mayweather Promotions, Bradley did the same thing when asked about possibly signing with Top Rank.

You're right though, Gamboa is in the same mind frame as Bradley was last year, but the difference is, Timmy had his ducks in a row when he fled. Gamboa is simply going off of emotion and impulses right now. I wish him luck though...
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post Mar 15 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 09:52 AM) *
Slumpage, you wrote a lot of stuff, but this part stuck out. The fact that Gamboa has taken an advance is very telling, because as we all know, people dont advances unless they need the money. Not only should he be unhappy with the contract details of this fight, he should be unhappy with himself for managing his money in the manner that he does.

We all wonder why Manny will NEVER leave TR, because this guy has taken several advances from Bob, Im talking millions...especially to support his political venture. So I laughed my ass off at the fact that he said this was going to be his last fight. Of course we saw that story change quickly.

Bottom line is, Yuri's not getting any younger, he still hasn't had a breakout fight in his career, and he's staring litigation in the face. Again, he doesn't have what it takes to dance with the devil (Arum). The same way Arum built him up, he will tear him down twice as fast, and make sure that he doesn't have a pot to piss in.

Oh yeah, for everybody that's saying that they're happy that Gamboa stood up for himself...please! He damn sure picked the picture perfect time to do so...while under contract. Now, had this been his last fight under the TR banner, then he should've taken it, and THEN expressed his displeasure AFTERWARDS, when talks of renewing the contract came up.

Let's wave goodbye to the Cuban fighting machine with no following, while he gets thrown off the TR boat. Rios is Arum's next product, and he actually has a following. If Gamboa did anything in this situation, he only made it easier for Arum to fuck him and put him back on the streets with nothing.


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The difference is, Bradley didn't sign anything for a Khan fight (that I know of), he simply refused to take the fight. We see how long his litigation lasted...very brief. Though Yuri denied any talks of signing with Mayweather Promotions, Bradley did the same thing when asked about possibly signing with Top Rank.

You're right though, Gamboa is in the same mind frame as Bradley was last year, but the difference is, Timmy had his ducks in a row when he fled. Gamboa is simply going off of emotion and impulses right now. I wish him luck though...


Well according to Gamboa's lawyer, he isn't under any contract at the moment?! Saw this on The Ring's website:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/171911-...l-aims-to-fight

Top Rank has retained lawyer David Marroso, who is a senior attorney with the Los Angeles-based O'Melveny and Myers law firm. Marroso's partner, Daniel Petrocelli, gained a wrongful death conviction against O.J. Simpson in 1997."I think that it's a great public relations move by Top Rank," said Gary, who has been contacted by Marroso. Gary is Sekou Gary, Yuri's Laywer btw...

"But I think that the evidence will show that the promotional contract between Gamboa and Top Rank has expired, and that there clearly was never any agreement to fight the Brandon Rios fight. The original promotional contract that Gamboa signed has expired, and then the contract that Top Rank is operating under with Gamboa is not valid."


Seems like Gamboa's being advised by his lawyer at least that he DOES have a legal argument to make... Obviously I don't know WHY he thinks the current contract Gamboa and TR have is "not valid", be interesting to see how this pans out...

As for him getting an advance, we don't know if he requested that. Seems to be standard practice over at TR to advance fighters money, that way you can exercise some control over them when it comes to contract/fight negotiation time... If a dude owes you money, well then he has to do what you say right? However looks like Yuri and his lawyer have other ideas...

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post Mar 15 2012, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 09:49 AM) *
Well according to Gamboa's lawyer, he isn't under any contract at the moment?! Saw this on The Ring's website:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/171911-...l-aims-to-fight

Top Rank has retained lawyer David Marroso, who is a senior attorney with the Los Angeles-based O'Melveny and Myers law firm. Marroso's partner, Daniel Petrocelli, gained a wrongful death conviction against O.J. Simpson in 1997."I think that it's a great public relations move by Top Rank," said Gary, who has been contacted by Marroso. Gary is Sekou Gary, Yuri's Laywer btw...

"But I think that the evidence will show that the promotional contract between Gamboa and Top Rank has expired, and that there clearly was never any agreement to fight the Brandon Rios fight. The original promotional contract that Gamboa signed has expired, and then the contract that Top Rank is operating under with Gamboa is not valid."


Seems like Gamboa's being advised by his lawyer at least that he DOES have a legal argument to make... Obviously I don't know WHY he thinks the current contract Gamboa and TR have is "not valid", be interesting to see how this pans out...

As for him getting an advance, we don't know if he requested that. Seems to be standard practice over at TR to advance fighters money, that way you can exercise some control over them when it comes to contract/fight negotiation time... If a dude owes you money, well then he has to do what you say right? However looks like Yuri and his lawyer have other ideas...



wow. great move by gamboa if this is true and it would explain toprank trying to throw him to the wolves...and then subsequently throwing him under the bus for refusing to sign the contract. i wish nothing but the best to gamboa who is only looking out for his own best interest. it is clear to me bob doesn't give a shit about any of his fighters nor boxing for that matter. fuck bob.
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- BoxingEinstein   Gamboa...   Mar 14 2012, 04:10 PM
- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Mar 14 2012, 05:1...   Mar 14 2012, 06:11 PM
|- - BoxingEinstein   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 14 2012, 07:11 P...   Mar 14 2012, 08:01 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Mar 14 2012, 09:0...   Mar 14 2012, 08:07 PM
|- - BoxingEinstein   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 14 2012, 09:07 PM) S...   Mar 15 2012, 06:06 PM
- - Cshel86   Honestly, I NEVER believed this fight was going to...   Mar 14 2012, 08:04 PM
- - flazi   i don't think Gamboa wanted this fight. I wou...   Mar 14 2012, 08:07 PM
- - Slumpage   QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Mar 14 2012, 05:1...   Mar 15 2012, 06:40 AM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 06:40 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 08:32 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 06:40 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 04:55 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 07:40 AM) ...   Mar 17 2012, 03:35 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 14 2012, 08:04 PM) H...   Mar 15 2012, 06:42 AM
- - Thickback   Typical Top Rank BS. How can you say fuck you to G...   Mar 15 2012, 07:20 AM
|- - Slumpage   QUOTE (Thickback @ Mar 15 2012, 07:20 AM)...   Mar 15 2012, 07:45 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 07:40 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 08:52 AM
|- - Slumpage   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 09:52 AM) S...   Mar 15 2012, 09:49 AM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 09:49 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 05:01 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 09:52 AM) T...   Mar 15 2012, 04:46 PM
- - Cshel86   Good post. I guess at this point, we have to see w...   Mar 15 2012, 10:21 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 10:21 AM) G...   Mar 15 2012, 05:03 PM
- - pesticid   I live in Canada so Common Law applies in the Engl...   Mar 15 2012, 12:20 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 14 2012, 09:07 PM) S...   Mar 15 2012, 12:27 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 10:49 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 12:33 PM
- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Mar 15 2012, 07:40 AM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 01:46 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Mar 15 2012, 06:03 P...   Mar 15 2012, 06:21 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 06:21 PM) ...   Mar 15 2012, 08:20 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Mar 15 2012, 06:21 PM) ...   Mar 16 2012, 11:51 AM
- - Cheesey1   This only improved my opinion of Gamboa. If there...   Mar 16 2012, 02:50 PM
|- - duwdu   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 16 2012, 03:50 PM) ...   Mar 16 2012, 03:19 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (duwdu @ Mar 16 2012, 04:19 PM) Rig...   Mar 17 2012, 03:39 PM
- - duwdu   I made a post in this thread earlier today in whic...   Mar 16 2012, 03:01 PM
|- - thehype   QUOTE (duwdu @ Mar 16 2012, 04:01 PM) I m...   Mar 16 2012, 03:21 PM
||- - duwdu   QUOTE (thehype @ Mar 16 2012, 04:21 PM) U...   Mar 16 2012, 03:52 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (thehype @ Mar 16 2012, 03:21 PM) U...   Mar 16 2012, 04:22 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (duwdu @ Mar 16 2012, 03:01 PM) I m...   Mar 16 2012, 04:21 PM
- - thehype   And by the way, just to add to the thread, from wh...   Mar 16 2012, 03:27 PM
- - Gambit808   Fuck all the out of the ring soap opera shit, i...   Mar 16 2012, 07:56 PM
- - duwdu   Well, newly published on the front page is a Top R...   Mar 17 2012, 12:48 PM
- - Slumpage   Seems like Arum tried to slip another contract ext...   Mar 21 2012, 05:53 AM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Mar 16 2012, 08:56 PM)...   Mar 21 2012, 08:18 AM


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