Mar 17 2012, 06:39 PM
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For all the action and post-fight reactions to tonight's fight. Keep everything in this thread.
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Mar 17 2012, 11:56 PM
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Personally, I think many score fights via "comparative" rounds. Meaning, a fighter does better than one expects, so dude gets that round. I think, no, I KNOW Macklin won a few rounds, but he was NEVER ahead in that fight. Moreover, he didn't give Serg "hell", he was competitive. He came to fight and that's good. However, to label Martinez as garbage, IMO, is unfounded. The ONLY way JCC, Jr. gives Martinez problems is if he channels his inner John Ruiz, jab and clinch on the way in. I'm telling you, Jr. is gonna walk into counter right hands like that was his game plan. I think you all giving Martinez too much credit in this fight, we just viewed them differently I guess. That fight was neck and neck to me and at no point did I see Martinez control the fight until the end when Macklin just gave up. He looked confused and frustrated to me throughout most of the fight. And I watched it in HD too. I don't think Martinez is garbage. He's a good fighter. He's just not this elite amazing fighter to me, that for some reason many people got wrapped in their heads. Just because he can knock out a dumb fighter like Paul Williams only means just that. Against people who box, Barker and Macklin, he looked sub-par to elite level to me. And when you want to compare him to people like Floyd Mayweather, which many people think will be some sort of "true test" for Floyd (which I strongly disagree. I'd put my life on it and say Martinez will get destroyed by Floyd if they ever fought, that's how confident I am in that.) The thing with me is, it's just Martinez style and his performance. He's clearly not good at adjusting to boxing styles, and we all know who's the best in the game at that. He fights defensive, likes to put his hands down, and he's not doing it like Floyd to trick his opponent, he's just fightin stupid. He gets hit way too much, especially against these SLOW fighters. He's decent at countering, especially with the jab, but he won't know how to adjust to Floyd's countering, trust me. It's going to be like Mosley, one-dimensional, will get figured-out and will look stupid for the rest of the fight not knowing what to do. I'm not gonna try to change anyone's opinion, come the fight, IF they fight, I'll say I told you so lol. |
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Jack 1000 HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT)-Martinez vs. Macklin-SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later Mar 17 2012, 06:39 PM
Cheesey1 Alright, let's see what Rodriguez and George a... Mar 17 2012, 09:15 PM
Cheesey1 Larry Merchant...forcing me to reach for the remot... Mar 17 2012, 09:22 PM
bnoles4life Oh goodie....I get (read: forced) to sit through a... Mar 17 2012, 09:33 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 17 2012, 10:33 P... Mar 17 2012, 09:45 PM
Cheesey1 These guys are loading up, but they're both th... Mar 17 2012, 09:48 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 17 2012, 10:48 PM) ... Mar 17 2012, 09:49 PM
Cheesey1 Martinez' trainier in the shades looks like he... Mar 17 2012, 10:03 PM
bnoles4life Prediction: Should Martinez scorch Macklin tonight... Mar 17 2012, 10:11 PM
Cheesey1 Yup. As long as Martinez fights a bit more orthod... Mar 17 2012, 10:15 PM
Hotsauce its over Mar 17 2012, 10:20 PM
Hotsauce QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 17 2012, 11:20 PM) ... Mar 17 2012, 10:57 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 17 2012, 11:57 PM) ... Mar 17 2012, 11:01 PM
Cheesey1 Macklin's still in it, but Martinez can and sh... Mar 17 2012, 10:23 PM
bnoles4life So, Sergio, who's has this fight well under co... Mar 17 2012, 10:24 PM
Cheesey1 Good round for Macklin.
Martinez needs to add a... Mar 17 2012, 10:30 PM
bnoles4life did Sergio start to "involuntarily dance... Mar 17 2012, 10:31 PM
bnoles4life WTH is wrong w/ the Corona girl's butt? It lo... Mar 17 2012, 10:35 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 17 2012, 11:35 P... Mar 17 2012, 10:38 PM
bnoles4life Anyone else notice that seemingly ALWAYS, Martinez... Mar 17 2012, 10:38 PM
Cheesey1 Hopefully that woke Martinez up. Mar 17 2012, 10:39 PM
bnoles4life They're crazy if they think Martinez is down 2... Mar 17 2012, 10:40 PM
Cheesey1 No way is he down two rounds. He's up at leas... Mar 17 2012, 10:43 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 17 2012, 11:43 PM) ... Mar 17 2012, 10:51 PM
Cheesey1 Haha, grumpy old men!!!! Mar 17 2012, 10:45 PM
Plah Watching a british stream here, cant stand most of... Mar 17 2012, 10:52 PM
Cheesey1 Larry Merchant....you were saying?
Oh no, they... Mar 17 2012, 10:54 PM
Plah DAMN!!!! Mar 17 2012, 10:54 PM
sduck Boo. I don't care what anyone says, this dude ... Mar 17 2012, 10:57 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 17 2012, 11:57 PM) Boo... Mar 17 2012, 11:02 PM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 18 2012, 12:02 A... Mar 17 2012, 11:03 PM
bnoles4life Okay, HBO crew...so, NOW he made terrific adjustme... Mar 17 2012, 10:58 PM
sduck I don't know what fight y'all was watching... Mar 17 2012, 11:00 PM
sduck Like a fighter like Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez look... Mar 17 2012, 11:05 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:05 AM) Lik... Mar 17 2012, 11:09 PM
pimpfighterROQ I think Julio Caesar Chavez can give Martinez some... Mar 17 2012, 11:09 PM
checkleft Called it too. Good strategic fight, Martinez has ... Mar 17 2012, 11:11 PM
sduck QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Mar 17 2012, 11:0... Mar 17 2012, 11:13 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:13 AM) JCC... Mar 17 2012, 11:32 PM
Cheesey1 No big deal, we just saw two different fights.
I... Mar 17 2012, 11:16 PM
checkleft What he's suppose to walk all over everyone? H... Mar 17 2012, 11:21 PM
mrchitown Got home from the Bulls game and turned to the fig... Mar 17 2012, 11:25 PM
sduck Don't get me wrong, I like Sergio. I like watc... Mar 17 2012, 11:27 PM
bnoles4life QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:27 AM) I... Mar 17 2012, 11:39 PM
checkleft QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 18 2012, 12:32 A... Mar 18 2012, 12:21 AM
BoxingFan86 Macklin tested Martinez, but all he did was bring ... Mar 18 2012, 01:53 AM
mgrover it seems that he outdid Macklin in stamina, or may... Mar 18 2012, 06:49 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:49 AM) i... Mar 18 2012, 12:58 PM
fightscoreollector how did yous all have the fight at the time of sto... Mar 18 2012, 09:26 AM
Cheesey1 I scored it 107-99. Martinez was consistently acc... Mar 18 2012, 10:09 AM
pimpfighterROQ I guess we all have the tendency to discredit a fi... Mar 18 2012, 11:37 AM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:49 AM) i... Mar 18 2012, 11:48 AM
Cheesey1 QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 12:48 P... Mar 18 2012, 01:00 PM

BoxingFan86 QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 18 2012, 02:00 PM) ... Mar 18 2012, 02:27 PM
mgrover QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 04:48 P... Mar 18 2012, 04:37 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 05:37 PM) w... Mar 18 2012, 05:28 PM
MaxPayne Counting the 11th round, I had the fight 101 - 101... Mar 18 2012, 05:21 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 18 2012, 06:21 PM) ... Mar 18 2012, 05:30 PM
MaxPayne QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 06:30 P... Mar 18 2012, 07:09 PM
mgrover maybe, i dont think its the problem with southpaws... Mar 18 2012, 05:58 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 06:58 PM) m... Mar 18 2012, 06:01 PM
mgrover QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:01 P... Mar 18 2012, 06:34 PM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:34 PM) p... Mar 18 2012, 06:39 PM
mgrover QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:39 P... Mar 19 2012, 08:15 AM
BoxingFan86 QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 19 2012, 09:15 AM) w... Mar 19 2012, 10:54 AM
Cshel86 Great posts guys! I'll STILL stick to my g... Mar 18 2012, 07:47 PM
wolterb I thought this fight reaffirmed and changed a few ... Mar 18 2012, 09:40 PM
Jack 1000 Very Good Fight!
Matt Macklin really tried in... Mar 19 2012, 01:59 AM
Allmenjoi8 Under Card: Good undercard I hope Rodriguez makes ... Mar 19 2012, 08:59 AM![]() ![]() |
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