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Jack 1000
post Mar 17 2012, 06:39 PM
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For all the action and post-fight reactions to tonight's fight. Keep everything in this thread.


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post Mar 18 2012, 07:47 PM
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Great posts guys! I'll STILL stick to my guns and say that Sergio isn't this top P4P fighter...he's ranked, but not that high in my opinion. There's not that much going on in the MW division (though it should be), and Sergio is the top performer in the division, so that gives people the impression that he's a P4P fighter.

I noticed that Macklin and Martinez fought in similar fashion (lunging and reaching), but Macklin got caught up chasing him and got caught coming in on several occasions while failing to move his head when they got on the inside.

I noticed that someone else mentioned how Sergio gets into the this lull or in my words, stand-still moments, around the 6th and 7th round of fights. It's almost like he takes a break for about 3 rounds, and his opponents either tee off on him a bit, or there's nearly any action at all.

Macklin was busy for most of the fight, but he just declined later in the fight. I mean seriously, he could've hit Sergio more than he did, but Im sure getting countered simply lingered in his mind after catching a few notable counter punches.

The knockdown (IMG:style_emoticons/default/no2.gif) ...seriously, all of those ringside eyes, should have known that their legs got tangled, but again...the shit that they see from ringside baffles me (to say the least). I hate Emmanuel Steward's theory (paraphrasing), "Had a punch not landed, then he wouldn't have gone down". Again, most of the shit that Steward spews, should always be reevaluated...that's only if you have the strength to even give a damn about what he says.

If Sergio faces a guy that's either a busy fighter by nature or executes a busy game plan, then he may be up shit creek and REALLY have to adjust. Examples of busy fighters or busy game plans are: Pacquiao in the second Morales fight and the De La Hoya fight, or even Sergio in the Williams rematch...and got forbid if he runs into a "punch and clinch" fighter...THAT will totally nullify his one punch at a time style and force him to dig deep.

I said that Sergio would REALLY have to adjust against a more complex fighter, because let's face it, he didn't have THAT much trouble adjusting to Macklin. I think the fact that he started as fast as he did, made viewers look for something big to happen sooner than usual, but it didn't.

Im guessing that he went right at Macklin, because he thought Macklin would do the same. Thing is, Macklin probably thought Sergio would start slow, so the quick start may have thrown him off. Point is, both fighters threw each other off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I dont know what's up with Sergio though...he starts off a bit slow (though accuracy makes up for it), then has those weird middle rounds, just to score a late knockout. The funniest part is, most of the time, his opponents have greater success in the middle rounds, just to succumb to his awkward style of fighting/gameplan at the end.

It's weird, but those knockouts always seem to happen around the same time, and his opponents just have those "I give up" rounds at the end. Maybe it's because of his constant movement, somebody help me here.

Oh yeah, was anybody dizzy from watching Martinez circle the ring all night? Overall, great fight, and great attendance at the event...nearly 4,500 - 5k people?! Good stuff!


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- Jack 1000   HBO@10PM(ET)/7PM(PT)-Martinez vs. Macklin-SPOILERS 15 Mins. Later   Mar 17 2012, 06:39 PM
- - Cheesey1   Alright, let's see what Rodriguez and George a...   Mar 17 2012, 09:15 PM
- - Cheesey1   Larry Merchant...forcing me to reach for the remot...   Mar 17 2012, 09:22 PM
- - bnoles4life   Oh goodie....I get (read: forced) to sit through a...   Mar 17 2012, 09:33 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 17 2012, 10:33 P...   Mar 17 2012, 09:45 PM
- - Cheesey1   These guys are loading up, but they're both th...   Mar 17 2012, 09:48 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 17 2012, 10:48 PM) ...   Mar 17 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Cheesey1   Martinez' trainier in the shades looks like he...   Mar 17 2012, 10:03 PM
- - bnoles4life   Prediction: Should Martinez scorch Macklin tonight...   Mar 17 2012, 10:11 PM
- - Cheesey1   Yup. As long as Martinez fights a bit more orthod...   Mar 17 2012, 10:15 PM
- - Hotsauce   its over   Mar 17 2012, 10:20 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 17 2012, 11:20 PM) ...   Mar 17 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Mar 17 2012, 11:57 PM) ...   Mar 17 2012, 11:01 PM
- - Cheesey1   Macklin's still in it, but Martinez can and sh...   Mar 17 2012, 10:23 PM
- - bnoles4life   So, Sergio, who's has this fight well under co...   Mar 17 2012, 10:24 PM
- - Cheesey1   Good round for Macklin. Martinez needs to add a...   Mar 17 2012, 10:30 PM
- - bnoles4life   did Sergio start to "involuntarily dance...   Mar 17 2012, 10:31 PM
- - bnoles4life   WTH is wrong w/ the Corona girl's butt? It lo...   Mar 17 2012, 10:35 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 17 2012, 11:35 P...   Mar 17 2012, 10:38 PM
- - bnoles4life   Anyone else notice that seemingly ALWAYS, Martinez...   Mar 17 2012, 10:38 PM
- - Cheesey1   Hopefully that woke Martinez up.   Mar 17 2012, 10:39 PM
- - bnoles4life   They're crazy if they think Martinez is down 2...   Mar 17 2012, 10:40 PM
- - Cheesey1   No way is he down two rounds. He's up at leas...   Mar 17 2012, 10:43 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 17 2012, 11:43 PM) ...   Mar 17 2012, 10:51 PM
- - Cheesey1   Haha, grumpy old men!!!!   Mar 17 2012, 10:45 PM
- - Plah   Watching a british stream here, cant stand most of...   Mar 17 2012, 10:52 PM
- - Cheesey1   Larry Merchant....you were saying? Oh no, they...   Mar 17 2012, 10:54 PM
- - Plah   DAMN!!!!   Mar 17 2012, 10:54 PM
- - sduck   Boo. I don't care what anyone says, this dude ...   Mar 17 2012, 10:57 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 17 2012, 11:57 PM) Boo...   Mar 17 2012, 11:02 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 18 2012, 12:02 A...   Mar 17 2012, 11:03 PM
- - bnoles4life   Okay, HBO crew...so, NOW he made terrific adjustme...   Mar 17 2012, 10:58 PM
- - sduck   I don't know what fight y'all was watching...   Mar 17 2012, 11:00 PM
- - sduck   Like a fighter like Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez look...   Mar 17 2012, 11:05 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:05 AM) Lik...   Mar 17 2012, 11:09 PM
- - pimpfighterROQ   I think Julio Caesar Chavez can give Martinez some...   Mar 17 2012, 11:09 PM
- - checkleft   Called it too. Good strategic fight, Martinez has ...   Mar 17 2012, 11:11 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Mar 17 2012, 11:0...   Mar 17 2012, 11:13 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:13 AM) JCC...   Mar 17 2012, 11:32 PM
- - Cheesey1   No big deal, we just saw two different fights. I...   Mar 17 2012, 11:16 PM
- - checkleft   What he's suppose to walk all over everyone? H...   Mar 17 2012, 11:21 PM
- - mrchitown   Got home from the Bulls game and turned to the fig...   Mar 17 2012, 11:25 PM
- - sduck   Don't get me wrong, I like Sergio. I like watc...   Mar 17 2012, 11:27 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (sduck @ Mar 18 2012, 12:27 AM) I...   Mar 17 2012, 11:39 PM
- - sduck   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 17 2012, 11:32 P...   Mar 17 2012, 11:56 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Mar 18 2012, 12:32 A...   Mar 18 2012, 12:21 AM
- - BoxingFan86   Macklin tested Martinez, but all he did was bring ...   Mar 18 2012, 01:53 AM
- - mgrover   it seems that he outdid Macklin in stamina, or may...   Mar 18 2012, 06:49 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:49 AM) i...   Mar 18 2012, 12:58 PM
- - fightscoreollector   how did yous all have the fight at the time of sto...   Mar 18 2012, 09:26 AM
- - Cheesey1   I scored it 107-99. Martinez was consistently acc...   Mar 18 2012, 10:09 AM
- - pimpfighterROQ   I guess we all have the tendency to discredit a fi...   Mar 18 2012, 11:37 AM
- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:49 AM) i...   Mar 18 2012, 11:48 AM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 12:48 P...   Mar 18 2012, 01:00 PM
||- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Mar 18 2012, 02:00 PM) ...   Mar 18 2012, 02:27 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 04:48 P...   Mar 18 2012, 04:37 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 05:37 PM) w...   Mar 18 2012, 05:28 PM
- - MaxPayne   Counting the 11th round, I had the fight 101 - 101...   Mar 18 2012, 05:21 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Mar 18 2012, 06:21 PM) ...   Mar 18 2012, 05:30 PM
|- - MaxPayne   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 06:30 P...   Mar 18 2012, 07:09 PM
- - mgrover   maybe, i dont think its the problem with southpaws...   Mar 18 2012, 05:58 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 06:58 PM) m...   Mar 18 2012, 06:01 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:01 P...   Mar 18 2012, 06:34 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 18 2012, 07:34 PM) p...   Mar 18 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - mgrover   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Mar 18 2012, 11:39 P...   Mar 19 2012, 08:15 AM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (mgrover @ Mar 19 2012, 09:15 AM) w...   Mar 19 2012, 10:54 AM
- - Cshel86   Great posts guys! I'll STILL stick to my g...   Mar 18 2012, 07:47 PM
- - wolterb   I thought this fight reaffirmed and changed a few ...   Mar 18 2012, 09:40 PM
- - Jack 1000   Very Good Fight! Matt Macklin really tried in...   Mar 19 2012, 01:59 AM
- - Allmenjoi8   Under Card: Good undercard I hope Rodriguez makes ...   Mar 19 2012, 08:59 AM


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