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bnoles4life
post Apr 3 2012, 07:55 PM
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So.....I'm watching the Face-Off and I'm trippin' on how Floyd is disrespectin' the whole thing. I'm all for the "selling the fight", but dayum, Floyd is clownin'. Exactly how serious is Floyd taking this? Antics or real? Thoughts?
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post Apr 4 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 4 2012, 12:41 PM) *
my take on the face-off....

floyd looked nervous and much more respectful than normal. his whole checking on his bet....switching his seat twice...and all of that seemed a little out of character for a guy who is normally cool, calm and collected during these face offs. he also may be trying to disarm cotto by paying him respect with all the compliments. i may be reading a bit much into it...but i think he has way more respect for cotto than any of the opponents he's had in quite some time. i also believe cotto is more dangerous than anyone he's faced since jose luis castillo. this is going to be a fight. cotto's flaws and all...he's going to test mayweather like he hasn't been tested in quite some time.


Floyed wasnt himself... period..

At first I thought, "man, he is really trying to pull some type of reaction out of Cotto, he is really trying to fuck with his head"..

But after he kept going on and on I actually took a different opinion...He looked nervous

Im not saying he is scared by any stretch, but it looks like he doesnt know how to take Cotto. The constant compliments, the look of intent while Cotto was talking.. even the jokes with him and Cotto chiming in and asking about the betting.. I think its all about trying to get some type of reaction from Cotto which he didnt achieve..

Contrary to what most are saying here I am giving Cotto a firm chance in this fight..I think we all to often get lost in the glits and glamour that is Paq and May and build a veil of invincibility around them..

Cotto comes to fight, and plus he can box... though he is out weighed in most areas in this fight, I give him a solid shot against Floyed.
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post Apr 4 2012, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Apr 4 2012, 06:30 PM) *
Floyed wasnt himself... period..

At first I thought, "man, he is really trying to pull some type of reaction out of Cotto, he is really trying to fuck with his head"..

But after he kept going on and on I actually took a different opinion...He looked nervous

Im not saying he is scared by any stretch, but it looks like he doesnt know how to take Cotto. The constant compliments, the look of intent while Cotto was talking.. even the jokes with him and Cotto chiming in and asking about the betting.. I think its all about trying to get some type of reaction from Cotto which he didnt achieve..

Contrary to what most are saying here I am giving Cotto a firm chance in this fight..I think we all to often get lost in the glits and glamour that is Paq and May and build a veil of invincibility around them..

Cotto comes to fight, and plus he can box... though he is out weighed in most areas in this fight, I give him a solid shot against Floyed.


although i think this fight should have happened years ago...i think cotto at one point was being groomed to face mayweather. he faced a serious of fighters that i thought were prepping him. u can never get the kind of preparation u need...but with that in mind, i don't think cotto will have problems dealing with floyds speed or boxing. he has had problems with constant pressure and guys forcing him to fight a very active pace. floyd does neither and he knows that. cotto is a well rounded fighter. he has a very solid trainer in his corner. i'm sure they'll have more than one game plan. i'm eager to see this thing play out. i give him a very firm chance as well.

ppl say mayweather is unbeatable. i've never believed that. everyone is beatable. he and his ppl have just been very good at picking opponents who have some of the ingredients to beat him but fall short in most areas. in comparison to most of those opponents....cotto has way more ingredients. the things he will need to do to beat floyd, he is very capable of doing. i can't wait to see this fight!
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post Apr 4 2012, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 5 2012, 01:28 AM) *
although i think this fight should have happened years ago...i think cotto at one point was being groomed to face mayweather. he faced a serious of fighters that i thought were prepping him. u can never get the kind of preparation u need...but with that in mind, i don't think cotto will have problems dealing with floyds speed or boxing. he has had problems with constant pressure and guys forcing him to fight a very active pace. floyd does neither and he knows that. cotto is a well rounded fighter. he has a very solid trainer in his corner. i'm sure they'll have more than one game plan. i'm eager to see this thing play out. i give him a very firm chance as well.

ppl say mayweather is unbeatable. i've never believed that. everyone is beatable. he and his ppl have just been very good at picking opponents who have some of the ingredients to beat him but fall short in most areas. in comparison to most of those opponents....cotto has way more ingredients. the things he will need to do to beat floyd, he is very capable of doing. i can't wait to see this fight!


am curious, say you were someone like cotto, how would you beat Mayweather?
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post Apr 4 2012, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 4 2012, 09:21 PM) *
am curious, say you were someone like cotto, how would you beat Mayweather?


u have to throw high percentage shots. if u think ur going to get clean shots...or u wait for clean shots...they'll never come. u have to keep a steady jab on him. it doesn't have to be hard...it just needs to be consistent. and definitely be ready to move ur head or block the counters. counter the counters with combinations. floyd likes to slow fights down with his defense which is excellent. let him move his head...let him roll the shoulders...but beat the shoulders and arms. aim for the chest and finish with hooks to the body followed by shots to the head. u cannot allow urself to fall into a pattern. constantly mix the shit up. he's too good at figuring shit out. steady pressure will eventually lead to him picking u apart so u need to back off once in a while to force him to come forward and be ready to counter his aggression. make him move his head and follow with the body attack. he's not going to move around much because he's sitting in the pocket more lately and even coming forward. on the inside u have to make it rough but watch it because he's pretty good at making it rough too. maybe an occasional shot to the thigh, ass or back just to make him worry a little. it'll take a high energy kind of fight....but it's not going to happen in one round. be prepared to switch it up several times and u can come back to some of what works. floyd isn't the type to force a pace so cotto will be able to sit back and rest when he needs to. these are just some thoughts off the top of my head. i think cotto is capable of most of them.
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- bnoles4life   May/Cotto Face-Off   Apr 3 2012, 07:55 PM
- - Cshel86   Both fighters made great points, but yeah...Floyd ...   Apr 3 2012, 08:20 PM
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- - MaxPayne   It was interesting to watch for sure. Floyd was a ...   Apr 3 2012, 08:31 PM
- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 3 2012, 07:55 PM...   Apr 3 2012, 08:36 PM
- - Cheesey1   My guess is antics i.e. he's taking it serious...   Apr 3 2012, 08:38 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 3 2012, 09:40 PM...   Apr 3 2012, 08:42 PM
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- - daprofessor   my take on the face-off.... floyd looked nervous ...   Apr 4 2012, 12:41 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 4 2012, 01:41 PM...   Apr 4 2012, 12:56 PM
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