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Apr 6 2012, 08:30 AM
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Lightweight Group: Members Posts: 849 Joined: 1-January 08 From: Maryland Member No.: 6,594 |
The funny part is, Andy Lee IS a substantial step up in class, unlike his Julio's past opponents who were gradual steps up...and he improved in those fights. Anybody find it funny how Chavez decided NOT to sign that the extension with Arum, and BOOM...he's in an Adndy Lee fight, with a Martinez fight to follow? As far as Im concerned, Andy wont lay down for Chavez, and he damn sure isn't shot (or close to it), so he proves to be a threat. THEN, the winner of that fight gets Sergio, which isn't a soft touch either. Now, if Julio signed that extension...do you REALLY think he would be fighting Lee and possibly Martinez? Nope, the gradual steps up would continue. I think Bob is more so pissed at Julio, because let's face it...Bob doesn't doesn't give us great fights out of the kindness of his heart. So, if Lee happens to beat the odds and get past Chavez, then his stock goes up...DiBella wins. Lee goes on to fight Sergio...both are DiBella fighters, so yeah...DiBella wins double time. I agree. I NEVER thought Chavez would be an easy fight for Sergio...especially after i saw how he consistently came into fights over 180 lbs. He does have a chin, so he would be able to take Sergio's punches. I see Dibelle building Andy a bit more before he throws him to the Lions..... pullin a Arum move.. |
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Apr 6 2012, 01:06 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,673 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
From what I remember HBO turned down Martinez-Zibik because Zibik was not a name opponent. The WBC stripped Martinez. (Well, actually they gave him some Commemorative Diamond Belt) but he lost world title recognition. Than Zibik-Chavez Jr was approved for the WBC Middleweight Title. HBO was hypocritical here, and the question is, why wasn't Zibik good enough for Martinez in the network's eyes. but Chavez Jr was good enough against Zibik for HBO to show the fight? I think Arum pulled strings here, and HBO wanted to mend the fences with Arum, when Pacquiao briefly went to Showtime. HBO should have just said. "Zibik is not a name fighter, and we aren't showing any of his fights, period." That's EXACTLY what happened with HBO!...bunch of scumbags. Maybe they did try to mend fences with Arum, because they definitely could've made some type of money off the Pacquiao/Mosley fight, though I dont believe those numbers all that great. If I remember correctly, all of this was taking place around the time Greenburg was getting the boot from HBO, or it may have happened already. Either way it goes, that was some BS that they pulled with Zbik. HBO basically did a "Mr. Potato Head" move, and made it what they wanted it be, of course with some influence from Arum. Again, around that time, Chavez Sr. had been inducted into the HOF, so they ran the extra mile and made most of the fight about him...calling out all of his title credentials during the introduction. Then his son was fighting a soft touch for a major title...that had to be the best Father's Day gift for Sr. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) While that circus was in full swing, Zbik was STILL overlooked. Poor dude, he was merely the sacrificial lamb that evening... |
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Apr 6 2012, 01:09 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,673 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
I see Dibelle building Andy a bit more before he throws him to the Lions..... pullin a Arum move.. He should pull some BS...I wouldn't hold it against him. If Andy happens to beat Julio in June, then he should build Lee up some more, instead of putting him in there with Sergio in September. Either way it goes, the MW title will still be in DiBella's possession. |
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Apr 7 2012, 04:41 PM
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Super Bantamweight Group: Members Posts: 456 Joined: 12-July 11 Member No.: 12,770 |
I think Lee can take this. He should be able to maintain control and cruise to a decision with his jab and uppercuts.
All of the above is assuming the win is not predetermined by judge/promotion skulduggery That being said, as much as I have hated on Chavez in the past, I cannot dismiss his ability to take punishment and then dish it out. With that in mind, this could be a great fight - with both guys struggling for dominance. And i would not rule out the possibility of Lee getting knocked out or down. this fight definitely will have my attention |
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Apr 8 2012, 10:32 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,673 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
I just wish Texas wasn't such a big factor in this fight...which is some guaranteed fuckery somewhere along the lines...
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Apr 8 2012, 10:50 AM
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Junior Middleweight Group: Members Posts: 2,224 Joined: 23-May 11 Member No.: 12,366 |
i can feel some sort of bullshit stoppage or dq
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Apr 8 2012, 01:52 PM
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Featherweight Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 30-May 11 From: Atlanta, Georgia Member No.: 12,445 |
So I guess I'm not the only one fed up with Texas as far as boxin' goes.
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Apr 9 2012, 08:29 PM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,673 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
To a certain extent, Im sure we're all fed up with Texas...but the thought of not missing a fight usually gets the best of us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I watched Chavez/Manfredo last night, and I saw a bit of improvement in him. As for the Rubio fight, I saw more improvement, but it seemed as if he wanted to hurry up and get that fight over with.
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Apr 10 2012, 07:58 AM
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Welterweight Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 28-December 11 Member No.: 13,419 |
To a certain extent, Im sure we're all fed up with Texas...but the thought of not missing a fight usually gets the best of us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I watched Chavez/Manfredo last night, and I saw a bit of improvement in him. As for the Rubio fight, I saw more improvement, but it seemed as if he wanted to hurry up and get that fight over with. Only thing I saw in the Rubio fight was that even if Rubio was the more skilled fighter, it wouldn't have matter because JCC Jr is pretty much a light heavyweight. |
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Apr 10 2012, 08:03 AM
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"The Meanest Nice Guy" Group: Moderators Posts: 9,673 Joined: 11-May 11 From: Wherever Greatness is Bred Member No.: 12,050 |
Only thing I saw in the Rubio fight was that even if Rubio was the more skilled fighter, it wouldn't have matter because JCC Jr is pretty much a light heavyweight. Yeah dude does come in at about 180 lbs, which is fuckin' ridiculous. Guys like that, shed all of that weight, just to be a bully in the division (i.e. Brandon Rios). |
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