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post Apr 17 2012, 11:17 AM
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but for the first 4,5 round he had Floyd in very uncomfortable situations even though Floyd was most likely winning most of the rounds. I think Floyd and Castillo pressured Floyd the best. What are your thoughts? Do you think anyone else not named Castillo and Hatton can make things uncomfortable for Floyd. I just don't see Cotto doing it cause he doesn't have Hatton's fire and energy nor Castillo's chin and resiliance but is anybody else there that can make Floyd feel that uncomfortable. I thought hatton in the first half of the fight had Floyd feeling less at easte than in his fight against DLH.

I don't think Pacman is the man because he is an in and out, jump in get out type of a fighter. He doesn't really cut off the ring and bullies you to the ropes. This is the only strategy that could work against Floyd and to my memory only Castillo and Hatton had success where one could argue that Castillo won the first fight, yet he clearly lost the second one against FM.
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So Hatton's names at 140

Kostya - retired
Urango - Where is he?
Vince Philips - Where is he?
Paulie - still fighting

and Cotto's names at 140
Ndou- last time I checked, he was a stepping stone for Canelo in 2010
Corley - still fighting and just lost to somebody...its on the tip of my tongue
Bailey - about to fight Mike Jones in June
Paulie - still fighting..this weekend I believe

With these two list...Paulie's the only common opponent that is really doing something at this stage of his career. With that said, Cotto still fought an undefeated Paulie, so to argue that Hatton stopped him two years later isn't all that great of an argument.

QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM) *
struggled with a limited Mathyse

Seriously? Limited? C'mon P, I cant even get with this. Matthysse would kill Hatton.

QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM) *
Hatton's boxing was very underrated.

The boxing that he learned after he got beat and knocked out over a course of 10 rounds? He fought a Mexican guy after that, and looked shaky, then fought Paulie, which he showed a bit of his "newly found" boxing skill and landed some big shots, but he still showed the same lunging, mauling, overexcited Hatton that we always see.

QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 10:49 PM) *
Kostya was 35 and had I don't even know how many wins in a row. He was the favourite to win.

Still didn't answer the question...was Tzsyu in his prime when he fought Hatton?

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cool but when shit starts heating up Cotto doesn;t have the heart that Ricky did. He would quit in a fight, running, holding, taking knees and that's ok but Ricky won't quit a fight.

When shit heats up, we never have to worry about Ricky running or holding...he usually runs out of shit to do and gets put to sleep. The one fight that I remember him holding and taking a knee in, is the Collazo fight.

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Cotto destroys Hatton at WW but he gets beat at 140, maybe not destroyed but beat.

Alright, now I know that you're smoking something.
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QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:53 PM) *
So Hatton's names at 140

Kostya - retired
Urango - Where is he?
Vince Philips - Where is he?
Paulie - still fighting

and Cotto's names at 140
Ndou- last time I checked, he was a stepping stone for Canelo in 2010
Corley - still fighting and just lost to somebody...its on the tip of my tongue
Bailey - about to fight Mike Jones in June
Paulie - still fighting..this weekend I believe

With these two list...Paulie's the only common opponent that is really doing something at this stage of his career. With that said, Cotto still fought an undefeated Paulie, so to argue that Hatton stopped him two years later isn't all that great of an argument.


Seriously? Limited? C'mon P, I cant even get with this. Matthysse would kill Hatton.


The boxing that he learned after he got beat and knocked out over a course of 10 rounds? He fought a Mexican guy after that, and looked shaky, then fought Paulie, which he showed a bit of his "newly found" boxing skill and landed some big shots, but he still showed the same lunging, mauling, overexcited Hatton that we always see.


Still didn't answer the question...was Tzsyu in his prime when he fought Hatton?


When shit heats up, we never have to worry about Ricky running or holding...he usually runs out of shit to do and gets put to sleep. The one fight that I remember him holding and taking a knee in, is the Collazo fight.


Alright, now I know that you're smoking something.



1 - So Cotto's opponents at 140 are better because they are still fighting? So N'dou is better than Kostya and V Philips cause he is still fighting LOL
2 - Paulie wasn't a good win for Hatton cause Cotto beat him by a couple of rounds 2 years earlier - wow just wow - hating full blast aren't we?
3 - Mathyse would kill Hatton cause he lost to Zab and Devon? At this point he would get Urangoed, he needs to show more that what he's shown so far. He needs to prove he can win a fight against a fighter with a respected record
4 -I don't know if Tzsuy was past his prime when he fought Hatton but I know he tore everyone up prior including Zab Judah and he was the favourite against Hatton. Now why do you think he is past his prime, his age alone?
5 - So you remember Hatton taking a knee against Collazo and nothing else from that fight - I don't smoke but I sure don't hate as much as you do.

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- pesticid   Ricky Hatton vs Mayweather   Apr 17 2012, 11:17 AM
- - mitukczuk   I always say Hatton was the only one with whom Flo...   Apr 17 2012, 11:47 AM
- - pesticid   Hatton was on fire that night, too bad Cortez allo...   Apr 17 2012, 12:04 PM
- - daprofessor   outside of bull rushing...hatton did very little. ...   Apr 17 2012, 12:32 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2012, 01:32 P...   Apr 17 2012, 12:46 PM
|- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 17 2012, 01:46 PM) ...   Apr 17 2012, 01:29 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 17 2012, 01:46 PM) ...   Apr 17 2012, 04:05 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2012, 05:05 P...   Apr 17 2012, 07:54 PM
- - BoxingFan86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 17 2012, 12:17 PM) ...   Apr 17 2012, 12:57 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Apr 17 2012, 01:57 P...   Apr 17 2012, 01:03 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Apr 17 2012, 01:57 P...   Apr 17 2012, 04:06 PM
- - pesticid   Yeah and Ricky had a good resume at junior WW too....   Apr 17 2012, 01:38 PM
- - neophyte7   I recall many people picking Hatton to rough up ma...   Apr 17 2012, 02:51 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Apr 17 2012, 03:51 PM)...   Apr 17 2012, 05:23 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2012, 06:23 PM) W...   Apr 17 2012, 05:31 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2012, 06:31 P...   Apr 17 2012, 07:57 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 17 2012, 08:57 PM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 01:34 PM
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|- - pesticid   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2012, 02:34 P...   Apr 20 2012, 08:10 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 20 2012, 09:10 PM) ...   Apr 23 2012, 12:24 PM
- - flazi   i disagree with the cotto having a bigger bag of t...   Apr 17 2012, 04:21 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (flazi @ Apr 17 2012, 05:21 PM) i d...   Apr 17 2012, 04:27 PM
- - flazi   You are right, cotto is more capable, he is much m...   Apr 17 2012, 04:35 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (flazi @ Apr 17 2012, 05:35 PM) You...   Apr 17 2012, 05:29 PM
- - leonthegee   After Floyd walks through Cotto youll be saying Co...   Apr 17 2012, 04:58 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (leonthegee @ Apr 17 2012, 05:58 PM...   Apr 17 2012, 05:30 PM
- - mgrover   there was only one thing that stunned Hatton and l...   Apr 17 2012, 06:31 PM
- - BoxingEinstein   Floyd was brilliant in that Hatton fight. I for on...   Apr 17 2012, 07:16 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2012, 06:30 P...   Apr 17 2012, 08:53 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2012, 09:53 PM) H...   Apr 18 2012, 06:58 AM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2012, 09:53 PM) P...   Apr 18 2012, 01:49 PM
- - checkleft   I never thought 147 was a good weight for hatton e...   Apr 17 2012, 10:45 PM
- - bnoles4life   Anyone remember the Jesus Chavez fight? Floyd defi...   Apr 18 2012, 06:13 AM
- - bnoles4life   As far as Cotto, his MAJOR obstacle is fuel effici...   Apr 18 2012, 06:16 AM
- - bnoles4life   Oh yeah, thought about this the other day. Define...   Apr 18 2012, 06:30 AM
|- - Slumpage   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 18 2012, 07:30 A...   Apr 18 2012, 06:53 AM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Apr 18 2012, 06:53 AM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 09:24 AM
- - Allmenjoi8   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 17 2012, 11:17 AM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 09:47 AM
- - sduck   This how I scored the fight Mayweather - 1, (2), ...   Apr 18 2012, 12:46 PM
- - Franchize   The Hatton victory was one of Floyd's most imp...   Apr 18 2012, 01:11 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 07:58 AM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 02:48 PM
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|- - Slumpage   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:48 PM) W...   Apr 19 2012, 07:03 AM
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|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Slumpage @ Apr 19 2012, 08:03 AM) ...   Apr 19 2012, 08:13 AM
- - flazi   shit i remember that fight. It was at some insane...   Apr 18 2012, 05:13 PM
- - pesticid   Damn, Hatton gets no respect, and even less since ...   Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 07:04 PM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 07:01 PM
- - checkleft   Hatton would have gotten sparked by zab and even w...   Apr 18 2012, 08:51 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 18 2012, 09:51 PM)...   Apr 18 2012, 09:02 PM
- - pesticid   Hatton's resume at 140 is better than Cotto...   Apr 18 2012, 08:59 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 18 2012, 09:59 PM) ...   Apr 18 2012, 09:36 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:36 PM) I...   Apr 18 2012, 09:49 PM
- - checkleft   Hatton was too small for 147. I maintain that, but...   Apr 18 2012, 09:08 PM
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- - pesticid   So Hatton's names at 140 Kostya Urango Vince ...   Apr 18 2012, 09:10 PM
- - pesticid   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9jk2U8FFtM...featu...   Apr 18 2012, 09:20 PM
- - Cshel86   So Hatton's names at 140 Kostya - retired Ura...   Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:53 PM) S...   Apr 19 2012, 07:49 AM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (pesticid @ Apr 19 2012, 08:49 AM) ...   Apr 19 2012, 08:51 AM
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|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 18 2012, 10:09 PM)...   Apr 19 2012, 07:14 AM
|- - Slumpage   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 19 2012, 08:14 A...   Apr 19 2012, 07:36 AM
- - pesticid   Nobody is making Hatton to be this great fighter. ...   Apr 19 2012, 09:47 AM
- - neophyte7   Calzaghe landed a handful of clean punches the who...   Apr 19 2012, 10:01 AM
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|- - pesticid   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:01 AM)...   Apr 19 2012, 10:15 AM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:01 AM)...   Apr 20 2012, 08:49 PM
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- - neophyte7   Cotto may in fact get gatti treatment by round 8--...   Apr 19 2012, 10:18 AM
|- - pesticid   QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:18 AM)...   Apr 19 2012, 10:23 AM
- - neophyte7   LMAO.. Carl Froch said Hopkins won.. is he a Hopki...   Apr 19 2012, 10:30 AM
- - MaxPayne   I don't think Cotto is quite there to be hit t...   Apr 19 2012, 11:24 AM
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- - mgrover   zaghe lost the match so damn clearly.   Apr 19 2012, 02:59 PM
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- - Cshel86   Pesticid...as convincingly annoying as you can be ...   Apr 20 2012, 08:41 PM
- - pesticid   I am bored... Mosley is a B+ Hatton is a B Paulie...   Apr 20 2012, 09:00 PM
- - Cshel86   Dude, are you watching any boxing this evening?   Apr 20 2012, 09:02 PM
- - pesticid   No boxing on TV or stream, it's raining and I ...   Apr 20 2012, 09:05 PM


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