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daprofessor
post May 7 2012, 06:28 PM
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i get the feeling pac/may ain't happening once bradley demolishes pac. i don't think arum will match timmy with floyd either. i think may/canelo should be his last fight and i also believe martinez is too big for floyd. so who's that leave? i'd like to see the rematch. their styles will always make for a great match up. they should do this before the year is over. i'm sure they did great numbers...and will do well in a rematch. anyone else interested besides me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post May 10 2012, 08:21 AM
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Floyd has nothing to gain from a rematch. Cotto was at his best, and at best, won 4 rounds. Only thing Floyd would be doing is getting hit unnecessarily in a fight that is going to produce the same results. Even when Cotto was hitting Floyd, there was no point when I thought Floyd was in danger of getting KO'd. I personally think Floyd has proven enough. He shouldn't fight Martinez at 54. I think he should fight at 47. He's the P4P best in the sport. People should be coming to him! Letting him pick the ring size. Letting him pick the glove size and damn sure letting him have the upper hand with the purse. Michael Jordan never wore Harold Minor sneakers lol Remember that!
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post May 10 2012, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Franchize @ May 10 2012, 12:21 PM) *
He's the P4P best in the sport. People should be coming to him! Letting him pick the ring size. Letting him pick the glove size and damn sure letting him have the upper hand with the purse. Michael Jordan never wore Harold Minor sneakers lol Remember that!



I agree in part. Floyd to me isnt the p4p best because he has only fought 6 times in 5yrs. Pac has fought anyone and everyone. That being said you cannot deny Floyds skill. With any other opponent other than Pac I would agree with you about Floyd, But Pac is the second biggest draw in the sport. So Although I have no problem with Floyd getting a larger share, Floyd getting all of the PPV revenue is unrealistic.

Put it like this, If Pac gets past Bradley, and Arum produces a contract in the post fight interview. Provides a copy to reporters, and has a signed copy faxed to Floyd with the following provisions, then Floyd looks scared as hell if he doesnt sign

1. Same ring size and glove size as the cotto/floyd fight, A Large venue reserved in Vegas. Olympic style testing done up until the day of the fight, let Floyd enter the ring last, and a 50/50 split.

If Arum made this move and in public stated now sign the fight Floyd or retire the "Chicken Shit" that we all know you are, Floyd would be between a rock and a hard place.


Now Let me be clear, I dont think Floyd or Pac are Cowards, I think they have huge egos, but a shrewd move like this from Arum would put Floyd on a hot seat his career would never recover from if he refused to sign.

Thats what I would do If I were Pacs promoter anyways, and a move like this might actually force the powers that be into making the fight
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post May 10 2012, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, 06:22 PM) *
I agree in part. Floyd to me isnt the p4p best because he has only fought 6 times in 5yrs. Pac has fought anyone and everyone. That being said you cannot deny Floyds skill. With any other opponent other than Pac I would agree with you about Floyd, But Pac is the second biggest draw in the sport. So Although I have no problem with Floyd getting a larger share, Floyd getting all of the PPV revenue is unrealistic.

Put it like this, If Pac gets past Bradley, and Arum produces a contract in the post fight interview. Provides a copy to reporters, and has a signed copy faxed to Floyd with the following provisions, then Floyd looks scared as hell if he doesnt sign

1. Same ring size and glove size as the cotto/floyd fight, A Large venue reserved in Vegas. Olympic style testing done up until the day of the fight, let Floyd enter the ring last, and a 50/50 split.

If Arum made this move and in public stated now sign the fight Floyd or retire the "Chicken Shit" that we all know you are, Floyd would be between a rock and a hard place.


Now Let me be clear, I dont think Floyd or Pac are Cowards, I think they have huge egos, but a shrewd move like this from Arum would put Floyd on a hot seat his career would never recover from if he refused to sign.

Thats what I would do If I were Pacs promoter anyways, and a move like this might actually force the powers that be into making the fight



they can use 10 oz gloves at ww?


also we don't have the ppv numbers yet.

if mayweather/cotto does 1.5 mill or more, i could see floyd asking for a 60/40 split or 55/45 split.
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post May 11 2012, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 10 2012, 11:49 PM) *
they can use 10 oz gloves at ww?


also we don't have the ppv numbers yet.

if mayweather/cotto does 1.5 mill or more, i could see floyd asking for a 60/40 split or 55/45 split.



10oz has been regulation at 147 since after the laevander johnson death. nsac did a review and came to the conclusion that welterweights should use 10oz gloves. i believe that rule was waived for the cotto/margarito fight by a request from arum if my memory serves me correctly.

i think when the numbers come in...they're going to realize that a rematch with cotto is in order.
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- daprofessor   mayweather vs cotto 2   May 7 2012, 06:28 PM
- - Hotsauce   i wouldn't mind but not in the immediate futur...   May 7 2012, 06:32 PM
- - bMaK   I wouldn't mind it. Not because it was at all...   May 7 2012, 06:48 PM
- - Cshel86   Wouldn't mind at all. I'll put it this way...   May 7 2012, 07:04 PM
- - p4pcrown   I think Floyd wins a rematch easily. He went into ...   May 7 2012, 07:18 PM
- - JammyJam   I would definitely want to see it, because I think...   May 7 2012, 08:19 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   I dont think this fight makes sence for Floyd. If...   May 7 2012, 08:21 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 7 2012, 0...   May 7 2012, 08:30 PM
- - daprofessor   i would love to see the rematch. it was the fight ...   May 7 2012, 08:28 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 7 2012, 0...   May 7 2012, 08:42 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 7 2012, 09:42 PM) I ...   May 7 2012, 08:45 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   I still think Floyd would deserve the lions share,...   May 7 2012, 08:46 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 7 2012, 09:45 PM...   May 7 2012, 08:53 PM
- - streetlion1   Mayweather vs Cotto 2 in MSG! Scoring it round...   May 7 2012, 08:57 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ May 7 2012, 08:57 PM...   May 7 2012, 09:24 PM
|- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (streetlion1 @ May 7 2012, 11:57 PM...   May 7 2012, 09:27 PM
- - checkleft   Cotto thought he won?? The fight was great, cott...   May 7 2012, 11:47 PM
- - mrchitown   I'd love to see Mayweather-Cotto 2. I see so m...   May 8 2012, 12:30 AM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (mrchitown @ May 8 2012, 01:30 AM) ...   May 8 2012, 01:27 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ May 8 2012, 01:27 P...   May 8 2012, 07:10 PM
- - daprofessor   MSG!!! that would be perfect for the r...   May 8 2012, 02:07 PM
|- - mrchitown   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2012, 02:07 PM...   May 8 2012, 07:13 PM
- - Cheesey1   I'd watch it if there was nothing else. Fanta...   May 8 2012, 05:59 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 8 2012, 06:59 PM) I...   May 8 2012, 07:22 PM
|- - Cheesey1   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2012, 08:22 PM...   May 8 2012, 08:24 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ May 8 2012, 09:24 PM) T...   May 8 2012, 08:35 PM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 8 2012, 09:35 PM...   May 8 2012, 08:55 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ May 8 2012, 09:55 P...   May 8 2012, 09:01 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ May 8 2012, 09:55 P...   May 9 2012, 11:50 AM
|- - BigDDatHomey   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ May 8 2012, 09:55 P...   May 9 2012, 10:18 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   The second fight would either be better or more bo...   May 8 2012, 06:11 PM
- - BoxingStill#1   If anyone knows Floyed knows he would say "we...   May 9 2012, 01:21 PM
- - Col Reb   I don't feel there is a need for a second figh...   May 9 2012, 05:02 PM
- - sduck   I don't see a reason for a rematch. Cotto did ...   May 10 2012, 07:02 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ May 10 2012, 08:02 AM) I d...   May 10 2012, 07:44 PM
- - Franchize   Floyd has nothing to gain from a rematch. Cotto wa...   May 10 2012, 08:21 AM
|- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 10 2012, 12:21 PM)...   May 10 2012, 06:22 PM
||- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 10 2012, 07:40 PM
||- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 10 2012, 08:09 PM
||- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 10 2012, 10:49 PM
|||- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 11 2012, 02:49 AM) ...   May 10 2012, 11:05 PM
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||- - Franchize   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 11 2012, 08:26 AM
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|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Franchize @ May 10 2012, 09:21 AM)...   May 10 2012, 07:50 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ May 9 2012, 11:18 P...   May 10 2012, 09:57 AM
- - Thickback   I would like to see a rematch even though the resu...   May 10 2012, 03:12 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Thickback @ May 10 2012, 04:12 PM)...   May 10 2012, 08:01 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   you may be correct, the one thing I would say is I...   May 10 2012, 08:36 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 11 2012, 12:05 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 10 2012, ...   May 11 2012, 01:28 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 11 2012, 02:28 AM)...   May 11 2012, 01:09 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 10 2012, 09:09 P...   May 11 2012, 09:35 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 11 2012, 10:35 AM) I...   May 11 2012, 01:17 PM
- - Cshel86   With all of this said, Cotto is a "lazy welte...   May 11 2012, 09:41 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 11 2012, 10:41 AM) W...   May 11 2012, 01:22 PM
|- - Run and Gun Game Calls   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 11 2012, 05:22 P...   May 11 2012, 05:51 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 11 2012, ...   May 14 2012, 01:29 PM
- - wolterb   I'd be interested in the rematch only because ...   May 11 2012, 10:27 AM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (wolterb @ May 11 2012, 11:27 AM) I...   May 11 2012, 01:25 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 11 2012, 09:35 AM) I...   May 11 2012, 12:53 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 11 2012, 01:17 P...   May 11 2012, 01:22 PM
- - checkleft   I think I heard it on the mayweather cotto ppv too   May 11 2012, 01:25 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 11 2012, 02:25 PM)...   May 11 2012, 01:54 PM
- - checkleft   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 11 2012, 01:54 P...   May 11 2012, 07:01 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (checkleft @ May 11 2012, 08:01 PM)...   May 14 2012, 01:32 PM
- - mgrover   yes, but this time floyd actually boxes   May 11 2012, 08:32 PM
- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 11 2012, 02:17 P...   May 11 2012, 10:14 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 11 2012, 11:14 PM) I...   May 14 2012, 01:37 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 14 2012, 02:37 P...   May 14 2012, 02:47 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 14 2012, 03:47 PM) D...   May 14 2012, 03:29 PM
- - Hotsauce   154 and above uses 10 oz gloves 147 and below use...   May 12 2012, 10:13 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (Hotsauce @ May 12 2012, 11:13 PM) ...   May 13 2012, 01:31 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 13 2012, 01:31 PM) 1...   May 13 2012, 06:03 PM
- - axlfoley   Floyd said the last time he used 10 oz gloves befo...   May 13 2012, 05:05 PM
|- - Hotsauce   QUOTE (axlfoley @ May 13 2012, 05:05 PM) ...   May 13 2012, 06:04 PM
- - axlfoley   in Nevada, 8 oz gloves are optional for a fight at...   May 13 2012, 08:52 PM
- - Franchize   10 oz AND they're Grant? No wonder there was n...   May 14 2012, 09:38 AM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   Dude whats with all of the excuse making coming ou...   May 14 2012, 05:48 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Run and Gun Game Calls @ May 14 2012, ...   May 14 2012, 07:43 PM
- - mrchitown   I don't see it as damage control at all when y...   May 14 2012, 07:30 PM
- - Run and Gun Game Calls   My thing is, Floyd is 35, and if nothing else was ...   May 14 2012, 08:11 PM
- - axlfoley   regarding glove size in the state of nevada: http:...   May 15 2012, 12:04 AM
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- - daprofessor   watched the fight again....i get why some would ca...   May 20 2012, 08:10 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 20 2012, 09:10 P...   May 20 2012, 10:07 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 20 2012, 11:07 PM) A...   May 21 2012, 01:38 PM
|- - Cshel86   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 02:38 P...   May 21 2012, 05:43 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 21 2012, 06:43 PM) Y...   May 21 2012, 05:59 PM
- - mrchitown   Fight wasn't anywhere near a draw. if somebody...   May 20 2012, 10:34 PM
- - Franchize   The rounds Floyd won were clear wins. Cotto only h...   May 21 2012, 08:17 AM
- - sduck   Scoring the fight for the judges would be differen...   May 21 2012, 03:55 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (sduck @ May 21 2012, 04:55 PM) Sco...   May 21 2012, 04:03 PM
- - bnoles4life   I wouldn't want to see it. I mean, why? What ...   May 21 2012, 04:34 PM
|- - daprofessor   QUOTE (bnoles4life @ May 21 2012, 05:34 P...   May 21 2012, 05:44 PM
|- - bnoles4life   QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 05:44 P...   May 21 2012, 07:55 PM
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